Discussion History Creator / HPLovecraft

I\\\'m about to do a mass cleansing of this page. It\\\'s far below the standard and is half ThreadMode or WordCruft.

I\\\'m going to go ahead and dump any bad examples here for clean up.

OnePiece:\\\'\\\'Every single flashback\\\'\\\' of the Straw Hats Pirates from when they were children can be horrifying on certain levels when you read them from an adult\\\'s standpoint.
->lacks any sort of detail, classifying as XJustX. Brook example moved up since it managed to elaborate. Series name displayed instead of potholed.

* \\\'\\\'[=~D.Gray-Man~=]\\\'\\\': What the Black Order officials did to [[spoiler: Lenalee and Kanda]] in their backstories.
-> Lack of elaboration beyond naming characters.

* \\\'\\\'NeonGenesisEvangelion\\\'\\\', inspired by [[HideakiAnno the creator\\\'s]] experiences with manic depression, focuses heavily on themes of insecurity, alienation, self-loathing, and hurting/being hurt by those we love. While these are expressed specifically through the lens of an adolescent character, many adult viewers who have or do struggle with depression and/or anything else of the above find it powerful and oftentimes disturbing. TheMovie combines intense emotional distress with mind-meltingly horrific imagery and SoundtrackDissonance for [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel memorable results]].
** No wonder [[TheScrappy many people hate Shinji]]... think about them [[YouAreWhatYouHate seeing in him what they hate the most about themselves]], and then seeing it increased thenfold. They hate his \\\"{{wangst}}\\\" because they refuse to admit \\\'\\\'that they would be just as bad if they were in his shoes\\\'\\\', plain and simple.
-> Doesn\\\'t appear to be an example as it\\\'s a deconstruction of \\\"fifteen year old kid hops in a mecha\\\" rather than something done just to scare people. The second paragraph is mostly bitching.

* Weirdly, \\\'\\\'DeathNote\\\'\\\'. So [[{{Understatement}} most of us]] will never have to worry about evil supergeniuses or notebooks that kill people -- but look at the way Light exploits the public mood. All along, he plays on a reactionary tendency in public opinion -- people don\\\'t like crime, people don\\\'t like \\\'\\\'criminals\\\'\\\', and so if someone\\\'s killing off the worst ones, who\\\'s really going to disapprove? And then he pushes the envelope, making his brand of vigilante justice more and more mainstream. [[TimeSkip Five years on]], the whole world is rapidly moving towards a police state under one man\\\'s control, and it\\\'s driven from the beginning by corrupting people\\\'s need for safety and justice. \\\'\\\'That\\\'s\\\'\\\' scary, because that mechanism plays out in less extreme form in the news every day.
** There\\\'s also [[spoiler: Sayu]] being kidnapped right off the street on her way home, missing for several days, and when she\\\'s finally returned home safe, she\\\'s in a catatonic state--reminding us that even if a kidnapped child is found and retrieved, they aren\\\'t necessarily unscathed from the experience. The contrast between her original, [[GenkiGirl bubbly]] personality to a [[EmptyShell staring, silent, doll-like state]] is jarring, to say the very least.
** Much of the AdultFear in the series is expressed through [[OnlySaneMan Soichiro Yagami,]] who\\\'s not funny or conflicted enough to take the audience out of how horrible the world of DeathNote really is. The latter half of the series as plenty of scenes with him being disturbed and angry at the way Kira is taking over, but powerless to stop it, even as his own family inevitably winds up in the crossfire. The scene of him looking at [[spoiler: the mentally-scarred Sayu in her wheelchair]], while thinking to himself \\\"What am I going to do?\\\" drips of this. It\\\'s even worse for him in the live-action films where [[spoiler:he has to live with the knowledge that the son he held in his arms as he died was the mass murderer blamed for his death, was unrepentant until the last (and earlier on had \\\'\\\'tried to kill him\\\'\\\'), keeping it all a secret from his family.]]
** The revelation that [[spoiler:People who die go to Mu (nothingness) and that after death, nothing can be done to bring someone back to life. Arguably, this fear is why religion is so important to some, who want to believe that cessation of life isn\\\'t the end.]]
** There\\\'s also Sachiko, who [[spoiler:loses her husband and son in the space of three months, and is left to care for the empty shell that\\\'s all that\\\'s left of her daughter alone.]]
-> Huge natter pile.

* WolfGuyWolfenCrest: one of the main characters is a teacher. Two of her students, however? A TallDarkAndSnarky DoomMagnet (Akira Inugami) and a SpoiledBrat CompleteMonster (Dou Haguro). That can be already really scary, [[ItGotWorse but it\\\'s nothing compared to what will happen later...]]
-> Doesn\\\'t appear to be an example.

* The kids from \\\'\\\'{{Runaways}}\\\'\\\' fight vampires, aliens, and evil robots, but the only reason they have to deal with these things in the first place is that their own parents turn out to be evil. For most of them, this comes as a shock; for Chase, [[AbusiveParents not so much.]]
** Even worse is watching what happens after. Social services aren\\\'t able to provide the support they need, so they turn to each other and start living in underground hideaways and have to put themselves in danger to keep LA safe from the power vacuum created by their parents. This [[spoiler:causes them to be hurt and, in several cases, killed. When Gert\\\'s parents find out that their daughter dies in the future, they are horrified and their first thought (besides killing off the other kids for failing to protect her) is to return and make sure that she\\\'s alright.]]
->Basic premise of the series, doesn\\\'t seem to be there to invoke fear. This is an objective trope, not something that scared the reader.

* FiftyTwo: which revolves around several climactic battles of good versus evil to determine the fate of Earth and the universe as a whole, [[GreenLantern Alan Scott]] has to deal with the fact that his daughter died during the just-passed InfiniteCrisis, and no parent should ever have to outlive his child.
-> Seems like standard comic book drama from StuffedInTheFridge, rather than something meant to horrify/frighten.

* One LordOfTheRings fanfic dealt with a young Aragorn (who was adopted and raised by Elrond) being kidnapped from Elrond\\\'s very bedroom. It didn\\\'t help when we see from the perspective of the kidnapper, how he actually lived and worked in Rivendell for some time, standing over Aragorn as he slept, thinking about killing the boy right then and there. It really didn\\\'t help when we find out that he buried Aragorn alive. [[spoiler: Thank goodness Legolas saved him in time.]]
-> No work name, no entry.

* {{Supernatural}}: Sam Winchester was taken by a man who preys upon children in the school\\\'s playground when John happened to be preoccupied, despite attentively watching Sam. The detail that the assailant had already kidnapped several other children by luring them away from their watchful parents was disturbing.
-> again, no name, no entry. As this was the only other entry for FanFic, the entire section was cut.

* Wouldn\\\'t \\\'\\\'you\\\'\\\' do \\\'\\\'\\\'anything\\\'\\\'\\\' so that your little boy has a chance to be born into this world so you can love him, take care of him and watch him grow up? Let \\\'\\\'that\\\'\\\' sink in before the next time you laugh at [[StarWars Anakin Skywalker.]]
-> This is not AlternativeCharacterInterpretations. This is about things put into a movie to scare the viewer.

* \\\'\\\'TheNightOfTheHunter\\\'\\\'. You want to help those children. You can\\\'t, because it\\\'s a movie.
-> XJustX

* \\\'\\\'TheBrood\\\'\\\'. DavidCronenberg made it while going through a custody battle with his ex-wife, and it shows.
-> XJustX

* \\\'\\\'TheOrphanage\\\'\\\'.
-> XJustX

* \\\'\\\'{{Coraline}}\\\'\\\' - see its entry in the literature section.
-> \\\"Go look at this other section\\\" without a link is not an example entry.

* In \\\'\\\'LiloAndStitch,\\\'\\\' the fact that the orphaned Nani and Lilo have to depend entirely on each other is tough enough... but when [[spoiler: Lilo gets taken away by Cobra Bubbles because Nani has been deemed an insufficient guardian is just \\\'\\\'heartwrenching.\\\'\\\']]
-> This isn\\\'t \\\"fear\\\" this is TearJerker.

* Just about any movie featuring the Holocaust does this, but a particularly chilling example comes from \\\'\\\'The Pianist\\\'\\\': there\\\'s a scene where a Nazi soldier orders a group of men to lie face down on the ground. He then goes down the line and shoots them all, one by one. The idea of being one of the men near the far end of the line, knowing what\\\'s happening and waiting to die is nail-biting for anybody...but the fact that this actually happened, to real people, is even more terrifying.
** What makes this scene absolutely grating is when the soldier runs out of bullets when he reaches the last guy. Cue the guy on the ground looking around with a mixture of confusion and hope while the soldier takes a moment to casually reload his pistol before shooting him in the head as well.
-> This isn\\\'t an example, this is a statement about a setting.

* PonyoOnACliffByTheSea: where Sousuke finds his mother\\\'s car after the storm and she isn\\\'t in it. Any child knows how scary it must be to discover that their parents went missing and any parent knows how scary it must be to not be there for their child.
** Despite being played for laughs, there\\\'s also Fujimoto\\\'s fears for Ponyo and attempts to get her back. His daughter has basically run away from home and her safety and wellbeing is being left in the hands of strangers who he believes are [[HumansAreBastards horrible creatures]].
-> This is ADULT Fear, not Childrens Fear.

* \\\'\\\'CrazyHeart\\\'\\\' When Bad loses Buddy in the mall, it\\\'s hard to decide what is scarier for him: what might have happened to the boy, or what his mother will do to him when she finds out.
-> Lack of elaboration.

* \\\'\\\'{{Changeling}}\\\'\\\' is full of this.
-> Lack of elaboration.

* \\\'\\\'An American Crime\\\'\\\' is basically the worst fear of every parent who left their child in the care of a friend\\\'s family.
-> Lack of elaboration.