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-\\\"If an unwinnable state can be fixed by time traveling back before the state was unwinnable and doing something different, it\\\'s still an unwinnable state. The time travel took you to before you were in an unwinnable state. That\\\'s like saying (most) computer games can\\\'t be put in unwinnable states, because you can always restore a previous save.\\\"
\\\"Restoring a previous save\\\"=/=\\\"Game that includes time travel\\\". Time shenanigans are Dave\\\'s role in the game. It\\\'s even in his title. It\\\'s not an unwinnable state precisely because he can travel back and fix it.
-\\\"We don\\\'t even know whether Dave\\\'s time-travel abilities comes from something that was made available through Sburb or something that existed independently in the Homestuck universe.\\\"
What are you talking about? Of course it came from Sburb. His role was assigned by Sburb, his timetables came from Sburb, this is not really ambiguous.
-\\\"It\\\'s got Skaianet\\\'s name on it, doesn\\\'t it?\\\"
Nope. Skaianet is the company that developed it from hieroglyphs in the frog temple, like Sollux was able to do.
-\\\"Doesn\\\'t actually contradict the original sentence.\\\"
...no? But there is zero support for it whatsoever.
-\\\"Karkat has said that there are a lot of null games. If in fact the game can be made unwinnable by design, it\\\'s fair to conclude that this happens because it\\\'s easy to make it unwinnable.\\\"
Sounds like you\\\'re saying \\\"because it can be made unwinnable, then it must be made unwinnable all the time\\\".
I hope that is not what you\\\'re saying.
-\\\"The sentence didn\\\'t say that Karkat said that it was unwinnable by design.\\\"
\\\'\\\'\\\"The smallest mistake in Sburb can, and most likely will if Karkat is to be believed about all those null games, come back to bite you in the ass later on.\\\"\\\'\\\'
\\\"Unless you\\\'re Andrew Hussie, you don\\\'t know what it falls under. Even if you\\\'re Andrew Hussie, you probably don\\\'t know what it falls under. —Which means it shouldn\\\'t be in here, but it\\\'s a bit rich for you to assert your theory as fact, after deleting about half the page because other people were asserting their theories as facts.\\\"
I don\\\'t understand why you\\\'re so determined to put this trope on the page.
It\\\'s referred to as breaking the game several times. I\\\'m just assuming it\\\'s exactly what the comic says it is based on the only information we have on it. What you\\\'re saying is that we aren\\\'t completely sure... and so we should assume UnwinnableByDesign? Sounds like WMG to me.
\\\"Overall, you could have made this a lot more pleasant by providing clearer reasons for your edits. Go back and read the comment on your edit for deleting Sonic Lover\\\'s restoration of this entry; how were we supposed to figure out your reasoning from that? I found that frankly disrespectful.\\\"
I\\\'m not going to type out an essay every time I fix something, especially given how this page accumulates fanon so quickly. I assumed he misunderstood the trope and put that in the edit summary.
\\\"Restoring a previous save\\\"=/=\\\"Game that includes time travel\\\". Time shenanigans are Dave\\\'s role in the game. It\\\'s even in his title. It\\\'s not an unwinnable state precisely because he can travel back and fix it.
-\\\"We don\\\'t even know whether Dave\\\'s time-travel abilities comes from something that was made available through Sburb or something that existed independently in the Homestuck universe.\\\"
What are you talking about? Of course it came from Sburb. His role was assigned by Sburb, his timetables came from Sburb, this is not really ambiguous.
-\\\"It\\\'s got Skaianet\\\'s name on it, doesn\\\'t it?\\\"
Nope. Skaianet is the company that developed it from hieroglyphs in the frog temple, like Sollux was able to do.
-\\\"Doesn\\\'t actually contradict the original sentence.\\\"
...no? But there is zero support for it whatsoever.
-\\\"Karkat has said that there are a lot of null games. If in fact the game can be made unwinnable by design, it\\\'s fair to conclude that this happens because it\\\'s easy to make it unwinnable.\\\"
Sounds like you\\\'re saying \\\"because it can be made unwinnable, then it must be made unwinnable all the time\\\".
I hope that is not what you\\\'re saying.
-\\\"The sentence didn\\\'t say that Karkat said that it was unwinnable by design.\\\"
\\\'\\\'\\\"The smallest mistake in Sburb can, and most likely will if Karkat is to be believed about all those null games, come back to bite you in the ass later on.\\\"\\\'\\\'
\\\"Unless you\\\'re Andrew Hussie, you don\\\'t know what it falls under. Even if you\\\'re Andrew Hussie, you probably don\\\'t know what it falls under. —Which means it shouldn\\\'t be in here, but it\\\'s a bit rich for you to assert your theory as fact, after deleting about half the page because other people were asserting their theories as facts.\\\"
I don\\\'t understand why you\\\'re so determined to put this trope on the page.
It\\\'s referred to as breaking the game several times. I\\\'m just assuming it\\\'s exactly what the comic says it is based on the only information we have on it. What you\\\'re saying is that we aren\\\'t completely sure... and so we should assume UnwinnableByDesign? Sounds like WMG to me.
\\\"Overall, you could have made this a lot more pleasant by providing clearer reasons for your edits. Go back and read the comment on your edit for deleting Sonic Lover\\\'s restoration of this entry; how were we supposed to figure out your reasoning from that? I found that frankly disrespectful.\\\"
I\\\'m not going to type out an essay every time I fix something, especially given how this page accumulates fanon so quickly. I assumed he misunderstood the trope and put that in the edit summary.
