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Webcomic Homestuck Discussion
I would love to change the Music.Homestuck link from "Catalog" to "Captchalogue", since that's a pun throughout the series, but I feel like someone would just change it back and back and back again.
Since the last two edits were just that, I'd like to just mention why does it matter. Just stop.
Anyways.....................................................
I was looking at the Funny Moments page, and it seems like a new example get's added to one of those as soon as there's an update. So I'm wondering whether that's fine or maybe the Funny list can be trimmed down a bit. Also, this is somewhat the case with the Tearjerker and Nightmare Fuel pages, if every update keeps getting added to these lists, those pages will contain a lot of Homestuck instead of some choice moments in the story.
Can someone put a proper image on the page? As someone who has never touched the comic I can safely say it makes no sense, and a visual work should have an appropriate image to represent it.
This isn't a perfect example because it doesn't do much to capture the humor of the comic, but the video used on the Kickstarter page does a good job of showing the more dramatic moments without spoiling anything.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/14293468/homestuck-adventure-game
Quick question; anyone else unable to get to the MS Paint Adventures site? It's been down for a while now (for me, at least.)
Reverted the move to Web Original. While it is debatable whether Homestuck is a Web Comic in the conventional sense, Web Original is a deprecated namespace and no article should be created on it. I suggest whoever did it does not do it again.
Hey, everyone. I created a Self-Demonstrating page for Doc Scratch. Can anyone help me improve it?
. Can anyone help me improve it?
What's up with the fandom specific plots subpage? The last thing we need is yet ANOTHER subpage, and the continued fracturing of the actual content through increasing overhead abstraction and obfuscation. I know this type of page has been sanctioned for other works, but Homestuck simply cannot afford any further fragmentation. The content should either be moved to the main trope body or under the fanfics page.
It looks like a bunch of /v/irgins are vandalizing this page. Should we temporarily lock it?
Hello. I have not been seen around here on this corner of the Homestuck internet, but I have followed this page very closely, because I am a huge fan. The Troper community introduced me to the comic in fact. And a few people from the Comic Discussion thread on the site forums were thinking about organizing a semi-formal page-scrubbing.
A chance to, once and for all, go through example by example and move things to the correct subpage if needed, tighten up wording, or delete/explain better what needs it. I would certainly not want to impose or step on any toes, and this is why I am asking here first. Is there any process/person I should go through beforehand?
I understand not wanting the entire page re-written, but I think if a couple dedicated people took a letter each for one day, this could work out really well.
Because I'm fairly certain someone will bring it up, the whole thing about Dirk and Roxy being in the future is a point of consistency primarily for me, as it's similar to our avoidance of concretely calling UU and uu trolls. The way I see it we have two options here: either we can go with the obvious conclusion (UU is a troll, Dirk and Roxy are in the future etc) and correct later if we're wrong, or wait for a canonical explanation. I'm fine either way, I just removed the examples and added a note so we're consistent between pages.
I feel that the fact that at least Jake's eyes are part of his glasses fit in a trope of some sort. Is this true?
A minor project up for grabs if anyone wants it; getting sprites or art on every character listing, as we've got a lot of characters now with art but no art in their section. I'll get around to it after the WMG pages, but I'm not the most skilled with art programs by any means, so art I implement might not be as optimal.
Should we create a new Character page for UU and any other trolls that would possibly be introduced during the Alpha session? If there are going to be any future Alpha trolls, the "Alpha Session Other" page would probably not be the best place to put them.
I think that I figured out how the trolls will avoid extinction: the post scratch alpha session appears to have lusi on it, which would likely include a mother grub underground.
Folders are breaking on some of the WMG pages. I'm all for deleting some of the really old Jossed ones, but anyone know if I'm just being dumb here?
This says not to delete theories just because they're Jossed.
says not to delete theories just because they're Jossed.
Okay, so Act 6 with the Scratched universe. For the character page, how should we do this? Start a new page for the Scratched kids? What do we call the page, and where does it fit in with the character index's number scheme? where doing it man?
That said, preemptive Jane image for whenever this goes ahead◊.
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I am a regular follower of Homestuck, I just wanted to put that out there. Now, I had caught up and been following for a while when the EOA 5 business started up. I was using my windows xp laptop at the time so I had to lug this charger everywhere, but that's not a major problem here. A couple days ago the EOA 5 came out, and as a midnight watcher I downloaded it and watched it when my charger begins to fail. Nothing overly special right? Kind of, but upon showing it to my friends the next day it died in the midst of the EOA. I sort of feel odd at the convience, but determined to fill the all in on the action, I then showed it to another one of my friends later on a regular windows xp pc and it worked normally.
Trying to follow along with the story after that, I located another charger and watched the Intermission 2. I liked it and sent it to my friend, but honest to goodness her windows vista computer Crashed! Wiping out several hundreds of files and a story she had been working on since forever!
My conclusion: Homestuck is too awesome or too powerful to be contained on this internet.
What is the Analysis page on Homestuck for? It literally has no content and I can't think of anything that would actually go there, anything that wouldn't just end up in headscratchers, WMG or Fridge anyways.
Two things. First whoever started the timeline page you have all my love, so that's out there. Second I want to put this progresive alignment chart by Tenebrais somewhere because it is a thing a beauty. http://www.mspaforums.com/showthread.php?40546-Homestuck-Alignments
Folded Jadesprite and Jade's sections together; in light of Cascade they're the same character again and it's easier just to have them together rather than apart
Plus Jade's section was notably smaller than that of the other kids because tropes were split across her and Jadesprite so maybe things are evened out now.
Cleaned up the WHAM page; I wasn't exactly polite about it though. Honestly I'm questioning why the page even needs to exist at this point. People have shown that they'll add pretty much every new plot development there, regardless of whether it constitutes a WHAM episode. Maybe we need a recap page so we don't lose the place for people to discuss that? At any rate it was really messy and there was conversation in the page and everything.
Fanmusic listed on here is being treated awkwardly, to say the least. The "Fanfic Recs" page includes a section for fanmusic that links to the LOFAM album, but all the actual fanmusic recommendations are listed on the Crowning Music of Awesome page in their own section there. Should they be combined into one section somewhere, should the pages be linked to each other, or should something else be done? The way it is now is just too haphazard.
You know what Homestuck hasn't achieved yet? It hasn't yet been the Trope Namer for anything yet.
What the heck do we even do with the latest update? There were some obvious mood whiplash moments in there, but... Is it a missed moment of awesome? Because it was done in a brilliantly funny way it's just... What in the heck do we even do with the latest update!?
Okay, since the old discussion was lost I'll ask agiain: Since John is known for terrible taste in movies does any movie he praises count as a Take That?
Also if and when the story finally gets to the Scratch, and the new kids (possibly the old guardians? who can say) start showing up, should we make a separate character page for them? Or subsections within the already existent pages.
In light of the lost archives, I'm posing a question again: Considering the update schedule and haphazard implementation, I think it's best if we just cut spoiler tags entirely and warn in like neon text that there are no spoilers marked. Because we have stuff from Act 2 spoiler tagged and it's getting quite confusing. There's no real reason to not be caught up unless you're one of the small subset reading at a slower pace, and to my knowledge they don't really frequent the forums or this page much. If nobody has any objections, I'll start taking care of it this weekend.
What happened to the old Discussion Page? There isn't even a link to it, nor is there one for archives
I'm quite late to the party, but:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/remarks.php?trope=Main.Homestuck
Enjoy.
Enjoy.
Sinec John is known for terrible taste in movies does any movie he praise count as a Take That by the author? I ask because of the strip where he alchemitized the Serious Business Glasses.
Can we re-evaluate the page's number of Wiks Homestuck has? As far as I know, Homestuck's position in the Trope Overdosed page hasn't been updated in a while, and since Homestuck seems to be an ever growing tumor that absorbs tropes with no end in sight, I gotta wonder if it's reached Trope Saturated by now.
There is a python script to do this in the Trope Overdosed page. I don't know beans about beans about Python so maybe someone can take on this challenge and see where we stand now.
Spoilers are really haphazard (we've got stuff from Act 2 spoilered but not some stuff from Act 5) and we do have the spoiler warning on the front page. Would it just be easier all said to remove all of them, and warn anyone about that in advance? I can't imagine that people finding Homestuck from examples are going to be linked to character pages or the YMMV tab and it just seems like less trouble.
We have MoodWhiplash.Homestuck and MemeticMutation.Homestuck pages now? Wow, where's the Homestuck.Homestuck page?
Motion to change the nightmare fuel page image to this
◊, because I think it's safe to say Gamzee is officially the scariest thing in Homestuck right now. Bar none.
◊, because I think it's safe to say Gamzee is officially the scariest thing in Homestuck right now. Bar none.
Go for it! But might I make another suggestion? How about a screenshot of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95kgMvE6-co @ 0:35 that is if we are considering fandom and not just the original work
@ 0:35 that is if we are considering fandom and not just the original work
I considered changing the text for the trope subpage links to something a bit more creative, but didn't because I didn't want to add unnecessary confusion. For the record, here's what I was planning to change it to:
There's a few for the latter two here. As far as A goes, I can only really think of Art, Ants, Apes, and Age.
As far as A goes, I can only really think of Art, Ants, Apes, and Age.
Is it at all odd that I don't understand this at all? I just started "playing" a day or so ago and I haven't gotten very far, but I feel like I missed a few lectures. But in what context could any of this really make sense?
As an earlier conversation suggested, I created a Wham Episode page specifically for Homestuck. Feel free to add past, present and future examples there (And this way we can curb the balooning of the entry in the tropes list by putting it elsewhere!)
I couldn't help but notice that this update is linked on Awesome.Homestuck, Funny.Homestuck, Heartwarming.Homestuck, TearJerker.Homestuck, and NightmareFuel.Homestuck. I don't think I've ever seen any work hit all five categories at the same time before.
is linked on Awesome.Homestuck, Funny.Homestuck, Heartwarming.Homestuck, TearJerker.Homestuck, and NightmareFuel.Homestuck. I don't think I've ever seen any work hit all five categories at the same time before.
Aradia's Dreamself- think this qualifies as Sealed Good in a Can? For twisted definitions of "good", perhaps, but I think it might qualify.
I think I missed something again. Do we actually know that Tavros was Killed Off For Real in tonight's Flash update?
The timestamp on his reply to Terezi's memo on the destruction of Prospit places him at least fifteen minutes after Vriska wakes up. We can assume he's getting up.
Edit: WELP
on the destruction of Prospit places him at least fifteen minutes after Vriska wakes up. We can assume he's getting up.
Edit: WELP
Putting the stats for Hivebent here, since the formspring got deleted:
HIVEBENT STATS
98 days
635 pages
737 images
1 three minute flash animation
70,000 words 7.5 images per day
714 words per day
635 pages
737 images
1 three minute flash animation
70,000 words 7.5 images per day
714 words per day
And while I'm at it, the now-broken links in case anyone wants to look them up with google cache or something:
Beyond the Impossible: http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/1093947328
Call Back: http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/898135176 and http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/550425816
Cerebus Syndrome: http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/1888161636 "relentlessly lighthearted"
Convection Schmonvection: http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/1778164158
Creation Myth: http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/1158290610
Screw the Rules I make them: http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/550300327
Suddenly Voiced: http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/1419935459
Teasing Creator: http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/898254629
Unwinnable By Design: http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/1888006123
Call Back: http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/898135176 and http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/550425816
Cerebus Syndrome: http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/1888161636 "relentlessly lighthearted"
Convection Schmonvection: http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/1778164158
Creation Myth: http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/1158290610
Screw the Rules I make them: http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/550300327
Suddenly Voiced: http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/1419935459
Teasing Creator: http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/898254629
Unwinnable By Design: http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/1888006123
The latest update shows Vriska talking to WV.
Does this count as a Wham Episode? This might qualify due to creating the previously unseen before possibilities of character interactions between the Exiles and Trolls, turning it into a new direction. However, it could be a minor twist, and nothing more.
Any suggestions?
I'm starting to worry about this page.
It seems to me like it's so densely packed with in-jokes and pointless gimmicks that it must be nigh unreadable to someone who's not familiar with the series already.
Does anyone else get the feeling it could do with some cleaning up, or am I worrying over nothing?
May I suggest that the "Go back" links on the individual trope list pages be moved to the tops of the pages? It'd be more convenient that way; there's already a link back to the main page at the bottom, the index link, and no such link at the top.
Not all the sub-pages, just the ones in the Homestuck namespace.
You know, we don't actually know that John is dead. If it turns out that Noir's wound on him was a non-lethal one we'll have some serious back-pedaling to do. We remember how "I won't be coming back" went.
Just out of curiosity, where did the "SWITCH 1", "SWITCH 2", etc. terminology come from? I don't remember it from anywhere in Homestuck.
I know there are a lot of tropes, but why bother with the separate pages? Didn't the folders do a good enough job of keeping the page short?
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=12911386090A37310100&page=1
Homestuck was on the list, both Main and Characters.
Homestuck was on the list, both Main and Characters.
Re: Rose's contribution to the Wham Line entry.
It could arguably be a Wham Line to the readers who saw the line just as it got updated, I grant that - but to an archival reader, the one who reads the whole story from start to finish, the way a story is meant to be read (in Hussie's own on-forum words) - they're going to see "I won't be coming back," and then immediately see that she was just being dramatic.
I suppose you could liken it to cutting to commercial break in a TV show just as the villain shoots the hero from behind, only for the audience to see, once the show resumes, that the villain merely shot the nearby wall as a warning shot. It's good for a quick thrill, but lacks any longevity necessary for the "Wham".
About Anyone Can Die: I don't think the deaths of the trolls' and Jade's Dreamself and of the armies really count towards Anyone Can Die. The dreamself deaths aren't Killed Off For Real because those characters are still alive in some story; the black and white armies were Redshirt Armies, none of whom had names, dialogue, or basically any individuating characteristics; and we don't know exactly what happened to Aradia (or Feferi) yet. So we're still basically left with Bro and Davesprite (though again, Dave is still alive), and Maplehoof. Still fits better under Sacrificial Lion I think — it's about equivalent to the death of Obi-Wan.
...I'm not actually joking about Maplehoof. Isn't she the only playable character to have been Killed Off For Real?
Main characters, ostensibly.
ostensibly.
Why was the Four Temperament Ensemble removed? I'm sure whoever did it had a justification in the edit reason, but it's too far back for me to find now.
Okay, I don't want to start an edit war here, but why the hell would Vriska stating that she plans to kill Bec Noir be a wham? She all but said as much in her conversation with Aradia in Alterniabound, it'd be obvious from her personality that she wanted to do so if even if she hadn't said as much, and the fact that this is a story in the first place makes it pretty likely that the villain is going to get killed, implying at least one person trying.
Isn't Auspistice the ultimate justification for O T3s?
No, it isn't; Auspisticism actually serves to prevent the trolls in question from becoming a (caliginous) couple. See here for details.
for details.
The Wham Episode entry is mushrooming again — I vaguely remember that it got trimmed down to a line or two because there were too many episodes being listed, but now people are adding new ones. Do we want to keep it as it is, trim it back to the original line, or maybe start a Wham Episode page?
wasn't it said somewhere that the trolls use a translator an are not in fact talking english
I don't think it's ever been explicitly stated they use a translator, but there is a separate language: "It should be noted that in troll language, the word for friend is exactly the same as the word for enemy."
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http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003891 is this enough? Olso the translator part may just be some Wordof God and formspring is unsearshable
is this enough? Olso the translator part may just be some Wordof God and formspring is unsearshable
Loyal 2 NES do you think that every time there is a alien race in a story the creator is using Art Major Biology or that the creator fails biology forever? Homestuck does have Art Major Biology but only when HUMANS do impossible things like split a meteor in half with a sword.
And besides some of that stuff i edited out is already under Bizarre Alien Biology. Alien Blood is already there and the links to Homestucks Bizarre Alien Reproduction explain the dominace/recessivity. Plus I dont think trolls having black lips is any stranger than people having black skin.
Biological aliens usually have biology. Biological biology. The trope isn't called Art Major Earth Biology.
If by "near the surface of their lips" you mean "near the surface of the skin"... We've seen numerous troll characters blush. Lip skin is much thinner than the rest of the skin on the face, regardless of pigmentation. Considering how the trolls have been treated in the story so far, it is no small leap to assume that troll lips have a structure that differs wildly from human lips when they serve approximately the same apparent function and none of the trolls have been shown to have lip-related speech impediments.
Yes it fucking does.
Considering how the trolls have been treated in the story so far, it is no small leap to assume that troll lips have a structure that differs wildly from human lips when they serve approximately the same apparent function and none of the trolls have been shown to have lip-related speech impediments.
Yes it fucking does.
I dont see why the trolls can't have recessive and dominant genes like humans do and still have the genes from the more emotional relatonships be better represented in the brood. Different definitions(from the biological ones) of the words recessive and dominant are used to describe this.
This means that terminology misusing is not what is taking place here.
(from http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004296 )
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I believe that Dave's leitmotif should be changed from Beatdown (which sounds more like his battle music) to Upward Movement. Agreed?
Agreed. F'rinstance, Upward Movement is quoted in "Descend" for Dave's part at the beginning, while I think we've only heard "Beatdown" in Dave's strife scenes.
EDIT: Ah no, wait, Andrew says:
"Just to be clear, what is the leitmotif for Dave Strider? Upward Movement or Beatdown?
I'm not sure that either qualifies. The whole leitmotif thing got pretty blurry after a while, the more songs I piled on."
So nuke 'em all, I guess.
:
"Just to be clear, what is the leitmotif for Dave Strider? Upward Movement or Beatdown?
I'm not sure that either qualifies. The whole leitmotif thing got pretty blurry after a while, the more songs I piled on."
So nuke 'em all, I guess.
TROLL SERENDIPITY means that there probably won't be enything like what is described on Tenchi Solution in homestuck, right?
means that there probably won't be enything like what is described on Tenchi Solution in homestuck, right?
The name of Act 5 Part 2 is named Homestuck. Does that count as a Title Drop, or is it a different trope if it's just the name of a chapter (and not even the penultimate one!)
Regarding the Psychic Powers line and sub-lines: isn't this just a mass of stuff that should be on the Character Sheet instead? Or am I mistaken?
Regarding the edit war about the links to the Crowning Moment pages: "Fondly regard <something that sounds like Creation>" is an established running gag in MS Paint Adventures, so it doesn't really matter that two pages take a similar title. It'd be better just to leave them as is.
What trope does Snowman getting the two girls to destroy her prototyping ring so that Jack doesn't get it like he does in the other session qualify as? I mean it's Snowman asking someone to do something, so that's ominous. But it turns out that it prevents something really bad from happening, that happens anyway. It's like when a trope isn't averted or subverted... it's just kinda... huh.
I have created separate pages for Shout Out (ShoutOut.Homestuck) and Music (Music.Homestuck).
The former because there were simply way too many of them, and the latter because it's useful to point Music Tropes towards the Music page and not the page proper.
Should we add a comment warning against the use of "recent" as in "the recent update"? I just edited a few of those — the problem is that soon the update isn't recent anymore. (The remaining "recent"s are OK, though; "more recently" doesn't get stale, and using it in an in-universe sense is also all right.)
"Monster Lord is someone who is more powerful than and rules over a race of mooks or other worthless underlings. I get the feeling this was probably added immediately after reading "blue blood" in the first sentence of Monster Lord."
Nonnie, I gave my reason for adding that trope back in, and it had nothing to do with blood color, so stow the snark.
The Monster Lord article includes a provision for races whose highest castes are physiologically different from the lower castes, which is pretty obviously the case with the two highest two Troll castes which Eridan and Feferi represent. The "mooks" provision does not appear to be a necessary component.
If anyone wants to offer a more cogent reason to exclude this trope than anon did, please speak up.
Is the echeladder an element of Sburb, or is it a videogamey part of the 'normal' world, like the capchatalogue cards? It might explain why all the guardians are so strong. maybe stuff like that is normal for adults in this world.
Considering that that current Vriska is her dream self, I think it is very likely Aradia did kill her.
I think it is very likely Aradia did kill her.
I may have missed it, but why were Eridian and Sollux having a Beam O War in [S] Make her pay? Fighting over Feferi, maybe? And should it get listed?
Can we get a professional verdict regarding whether or not the Unwinnable By Design trope belongs on this page? The ongoing Edit War is rapidly losing its entertainment now.
If an unwinnable state can be fixed by time traveling back before the state was unwinnable and doing something different, it's still an unwinnable state. The time travel took you to before you were in an unwinnable state. That's like saying (most) computer games can't be put in unwinnable states, because you can always restore a previous save. We don't even know whether Dave's time-travel abilities comes from something that was made available through Sburb or something that existed independently in the Homestuck universe.
Not to mention that it's explicitly said (http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003988) that it's necessary to prototype the kernelsprite once pre-entry, so it presumably is canonically possible to make the game unwinnable by breaking your first cruxite item before Tier 1 prototyping. John starts getting cruxite dowels before Rose prototypes the Kernelsprite, so this should be possible.
"Skaianet probably didn't design the game, just adapted it. And why do we need to exaggerate everything."
It's got Skaianet's name on it, doesn't it?
"Karkat was talking about sessions where people lost because of the difficulty of the game. He never once implied Unwinnable By Design."
Doesn't actually contradict the original sentence. Karkat has said that there are a lot of null games. If in fact the game can be made unwinnable by design, it's fair to conclude that this happens because it's easy to make it unwinnable. The sentence didn't say that Karkat said that it was unwinnable by design.
"Only applies to the trolls so far as we know, and that falls under Unwinnable By Mistake."
Unless you're Andrew Hussie, you don't know what it falls under. Even if you're Andrew Hussie, you probably don't know what it falls under. —Which means it shouldn't be in here, but it's a bit rich for you to assert your theory as fact, after deleting about half the page because other people were asserting their theories as facts.
On your last point, the original should read "can prevent the kids' untimely deaths" (and I think the trolls are probably wrong — isn't the point of the Rift that they can't see into it?)
Overall, you could have made this a lot more pleasant by providing clearer reasons for your edits. Go back and read the comment on your edit for deleting Sonic Lover's restoration of this entry; how were we supposed to figure out your reasoning from that? I found that frankly disrespectful.
Anonymous Mc Cartney Fan: It makes sense to give the benefit of the doubt to the designers of modern games, but does that really apply to Sburb?
that it's necessary to prototype the kernelsprite once pre-entry, so it presumably is canonically possible to make the game unwinnable by breaking your first cruxite item before Tier 1 prototyping. John starts getting cruxite dowels before Rose prototypes the Kernelsprite, so this should be possible.
"Skaianet probably didn't design the game, just adapted it. And why do we need to exaggerate everything."
It's got Skaianet's name on it, doesn't it?
"Karkat was talking about sessions where people lost because of the difficulty of the game. He never once implied Unwinnable By Design."
Doesn't actually contradict the original sentence. Karkat has said that there are a lot of null games. If in fact the game can be made unwinnable by design, it's fair to conclude that this happens because it's easy to make it unwinnable. The sentence didn't say that Karkat said that it was unwinnable by design.
"Only applies to the trolls so far as we know, and that falls under Unwinnable By Mistake."
Unless you're Andrew Hussie, you don't know what it falls under. Even if you're Andrew Hussie, you probably don't know what it falls under. —Which means it shouldn't be in here, but it's a bit rich for you to assert your theory as fact, after deleting about half the page because other people were asserting their theories as facts.
On your last point, the original should read "can prevent the kids' untimely deaths" (and I think the trolls are probably wrong — isn't the point of the Rift that they can't see into it?)
Overall, you could have made this a lot more pleasant by providing clearer reasons for your edits. Go back and read the comment on your edit for deleting Sonic Lover's restoration of this entry; how were we supposed to figure out your reasoning from that? I found that frankly disrespectful.
Anonymous Mc Cartney Fan: It makes sense to give the benefit of the doubt to the designers of modern games, but does that really apply to Sburb?
This comic isn't on Better Than It Sounds.
Uhm, all Sburb players are?
Also, http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003803
I don't know what's going on or how to fix it, but the button for the heartwarming moments page (in the row of buttons at the top) is misdirected.
Props to Unknown Troper 82.3.21.214 for doing an Alphabetical sorting. Fits with how the page has been made so far plus makes it easier, especially since the page, while not being the mess, mimics the webcomic itself - very, very long.
Yes there is, look at the sky in the first panel.
There is also the fact that Andrew said it on his Twitter.
Sorry to crush your dreams, guy, but Gamzee is a Juggalo. Them's the breaks.
, look at the sky in the first panel.
There is also the fact that Andrew said it on his Twitter.
Sorry to crush your dreams, guy, but Gamzee is a Juggalo. Them's the breaks.
Before I edit the But What About The Astronauts entry, did the Vast Glub ever actually occur?
Re the Unfortunate Implications entry: it's a bit of a stretch to say they're caricatures of Asians just because they have buck teeth—they don't have squinted eyes or exaggerated/wrinkly foreheads. Just buck teeth. As for the only same-sex morallegiance having Les Yay: even if it's not a reproductive one, it is a romantic relationship. Also, Kanaya wants more than morallegiance with Vriska. Anyway, on top of that, they're aliens. I have no idea how that's unfortunate at all. So I'm just going to cull that entirely.
(Incidentally, though not really related to the above, the Word of God cited is probably some sort of ass covering, since John calls Dave white at least once.)
Should the second hottipped quote be moved to Call Backs? (Still as a hot tip.) It basically seems to explain his method in terms of continuous callbacks. Or perhaps we could include a note in the Call Backs entry to consult that quote?
I'd like to propose adding a "soft rule" for the Homestuck pages, prior to the example lists. Due to the rapidly-updating nature of the comic, as well as Hussie's writing style, it'd probably be best if people refrained from adding examples regarding story elements that plainly have yet to be resolved, until they have been resolved for the foreseeable future. For instance, we should probably refrain from adding examples regarding Vriska kissing Tavros until the focus shifts away from that event, and possibly avoid making absolute statements about Karkat's blood color until we get confirmation about just what that blood color actually means. Things like that.
Thoughts?
Wondering where this should go, if anywhere:
The trolls' blood caste system spans the entire spectrum of colour. The lowest we've seen is Aradia's red-orange, and the highest is cC's maroon. This would mean that Karkat's mutant candy-red blood is exactly at the turning point of the colour wheel. He's either the absolute lowest or the absolute highest. I'm just not sure what to call this.
I'm considering adding the "Walt Whitman" quote from Act 1 to the top of this page, but do we really need more than one quote?
Someone remind me of why we're trying to cut corners regarding this page's length? I've seen much longer.
Just a note — I spoilered White Text's name back when we were calling him "White Text," both because it was something of the spoiler that the trolls were talking to a white text guy, and also because, you know, it made it appear in white text. Then it stayed in a spoiler when it got changed to "Doc Scratch." I agree that there's no point in spoilering Doc Scratch's name now, since it's meaningless if you don't know who he is.
I'm not really understanding why the Ensemble Darkhorse entry includes winnie_the_poop when it excludes Secret Wizard and Crumplehat— I have never heard anyone talk about the former outside of this entry, and the latter two were extremely popular for their non-existent role in the story. I thought I'd ask anyway because it appears someone actively deleted them from the entry for whatever reason.
Cutting down the Wham Episodes is a good idea, but which do we want to keep? I thought the End of Act 1 finale was a bigger Wham than the first sighting of the asteroid — I really did say to myself, "Oh my god did our hero just die?" And the asteroid example was slightly undercut by John high-fiving the sprite two pages later.
I'm trying to get Homestuck to qualify for inclusion on the Trope Overdosed page, but it hasn't even hit 500 links on the Related To page yet. I managed to get it past 444, though.
All right, this is just idle curiosity that we'll probably never see explored, but what would happen if someone dualboxed a Sburb session so he or she was both user and client?
Aside from likely dying from meteor impact/imp trying to edit the world AND complete all the necessary tasks.
Hey Ninjacrat, could you provide links to where you moved everything? I think we found most of it, but I can't find the Fridge Brilliance section and was hoping it hadn't evaporated into thin air.
Since when are the Monarchs's crowns Artifacts Of Doom? If I assume correctly, they are purely symbols of office (we've seen quite plainly that the rings and scepters are the big guns) that Jack had PM acquire with the assumption she'd kill to get them; he did give her a regisword for the job, after all. Now he could very well think all the Monarchs are dead (having killed two of them himself). The crowns are just proof that the White Monarchs are out of the way, aren't they?
Hmm. Not sure what trope it would fit under, but I found carcinoGenetecist's comment about how the universe(s) is/are filling up with dead, empty incipispheres to be pretty dark. I mean, planets are ending, and ALL life on entire planets are ending, and kids everywhere are going on hopeless and desperate quests that get them all killed, and none of them are succeeding. That's pretty horrible. Tear Jerker? Maybe Crosses The Line Twice because cG talks about how tragic it is, then says it's pretty hilarious? Idk.
Jeebus effing crow.
THE BABIES ARE NOT THE REAL GUARDIANS AND KIDS! THEY ARE CLONES! So can we please hold off on all these Stable Time Loop theories until we have more info?
Could we remove any theories that have been Jossed from the WMG?
They are taking up a lot of space on an already huge page.
Would The Noseless belong on this page? Practically none of the characters have noses.
Shall I put this as the page quote?
Maybe at the end? Put it at the end. Looks good.
- "4/13/2009 - 4/13/20104 kids365 days (and counting)1668 pages2024 images85,000 words63 Flash animations5.5 images per day, every day1 Flash animation every 6 days1 hour total of animated footage3000 imported graphic files53 songs3 albums"—Andrew
"Dave previously used the Bladekind Abstratus. However, since having his sword broken in half by Bro, he's now stuck with the 1/2Bladekind Abstratus - meaning he can only use swords with broken blades." in Improbable Weapon User.
Possible subversion in that Future Dave could apparently use his time abilities to "repair" his sword: reverting it to a time when it was not broken in half? Watch his blade extension sequence, I think this is what is happening.