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* In the episode \\\"When Extremes Meet\\\", Councilman Tarrlok crosses it when enacts a curfew on a Non-Bender district of Republic City, shuts off the power to said district so he can arrest those who \\\"break curfew\\\" as they come out to complain, arrests the new Team Avatar for trying to help them and to top all off, bloodbends Korra and has her exiled from Republic City and left to die alone, locked in a box.
* [[spoiler: Hiroshi Sato]] goes flying over the MEH when [[spoiler: he abandons the only family connection that still made him somewhat sympathetic and tries to kill his own daughter, reasoning that \\\"she can\\\'t be saved\\\" because of her sympathy for benders. This, combined with joining the Equalists to eradicate bending after the death of his wife, and any atrocities he contributed to because of his weaponry, he nullifies the only FreudianExcuse he had going for him. Even when he returns in Book 4 having seen the error of his ways, it\\\'s made abundantly clear that his actions in Book 1 crossed a line and that he has no right to expect either Asami\\\'s or the audience\\\'s forgiveness.]]
* [[spoiler:Varrick]] deliberately bankrupting Asami in order to absorb Future Industries. It\\\'s the moment he went from \\\"lovable crazy guy\\\" to \\\"hideously evil scumbag [[LaughablyEvil that happens to be entertaining]]\\\".
* While Kuvira lost more and more of her apparent redeeming qualities over time, she seems to finally cross the line in \\\'\\\'Kuvira\\\'s Gambit\\\'\\\'. [[spoiler:In the episode, Korra manages to capture Kuvira\\\'s fiancé, Baatar Jr., as Kuvira is trying to take over Republic City with her new super weapon. Baatar contacts her and tells her that Korra is threatening to take him away from her forever unless they stand down and leave. He says that he loves her, and even without Republic City they can still get married and rule the rest of the Earth Empire together. As he\\\'s speaking with her, Kuvira traces the radio signal to where he\\\'s being held by Korra. Once she has the location, Kuvira tells Baatar she\\\'ll back down and she loves him. [[ShootTheHostage Then she fires her superweapon on the warehouse where he\\\'s being held]], willing to sacrifice him just for the chance to kill Korra.]] At the very least, her tone of voice and body language indicate that she feels some regret over what she\\\'s doing, but her act still proves that her empire and her ideology [[TheUnfettered come before everything else.]] In-universe, [[spoiler: Baatar Jr. considers this Kuvira\\\'s MEH; he divorces her and gives the new Gaang all the information they need to take her down. \\\'\\\'Ruins of the Empire\\\'\\\' confirms that he doesn\\\'t forgive her and refuses to reconcile. He explicitly says that if the roles were reversed, he wouldn\\\'t have fired a cannon at her to remove any leverage]].
* In-universe, Baatar Jr.\\\'s family feels he crossed it by siding with Kuvira and imprisoning them, except for Suyin who feels that [[spoiler:he received enough punishment when Kuvira tried to kill him]]. They still treat him with hostility and awkwardness, even his own father, and his little sister Opal is never letting him live it down. Baatar Jr. himself feels that he deserves the punishment of [[spoiler:house arrest with a parent and many siblings who hate his guts]] and is working to make up for his mistake with [[spoiler:the deprogramming machine]]. Whether or not he can uncross the MEH is up to the readers.
I don’t think these qualify because:
Tarrlok suffers a MAJOR BreakTheHaughty phase, expresses a HeelRealization, and commits a double murder-suicide as a RedemptionEqualsDeath act.
Hiroshi Sato suffers a BreakTheBeliever phase when he serves a sentence in jail, expressing remorse, and wanting to [[TheAtoner atone]] for his obscene actions. He finally pulls a RedemptionEqualsDeath act.
Varrick undergoes a BreakTheHaughty phase in Season 4, has a HeelFaceTurn, and earns a happy ending with Zhu Li.
Kuvira relents in spectacular fashion in Season 4, has a HeelRealization, humbly allows herself to be jailed, and the \\\'\\\'Ruins of the Empire\\\'\\\' comic is basically a HumiliationConga that inspires her to be TheAtoner.
Bataar Jr. has a HeelRealization, a HeelFaceTurn, and humbly accepts the (justified) abuse from his family.
With all of that said, should I cut these entries?
* In the episode \\\"When Extremes Meet\\\", Councilman Tarrlok crosses it when enacts a curfew on a Non-Bender district of Republic City, shuts off the power to said district so he can arrest those who \\\"break curfew\\\" as they come out to complain, arrests the new Team Avatar for trying to help them and to top all off, bloodbends Korra and has her exiled from Republic City and left to die alone, locked in a box.
* [[spoiler: Hiroshi Sato]] goes flying over the MEH when [[spoiler: he abandons the only family connection that still made him somewhat sympathetic and tries to kill his own daughter, reasoning that \\\"she can\\\'t be saved\\\" because of her sympathy for benders. This, combined with joining the Equalists to eradicate bending after the death of his wife, and any atrocities he contributed to because of his weaponry, he nullifies the only FreudianExcuse he had going for him. Even when he returns in Book 4 having seen the error of his ways, it\\\'s made abundantly clear that his actions in Book 1 crossed a line and that he has no right to expect either Asami\\\'s or the audience\\\'s forgiveness.]]
* [[spoiler:Varrick]] deliberately bankrupting Asami in order to absorb Future Industries. It\\\'s the moment he went from \\\"lovable crazy guy\\\" to \\\"hideously evil scumbag [[LaughablyEvil that happens to be entertaining]]\\\".
* While Kuvira lost more and more of her apparent redeeming qualities over time, she seems to finally cross the line in \\\'\\\'Kuvira\\\'s Gambit\\\'\\\'. [[spoiler:In the episode, Korra manages to capture Kuvira\\\'s fiancé, Baatar Jr., as Kuvira is trying to take over Republic City with her new super weapon. Baatar contacts her and tells her that Korra is threatening to take him away from her forever unless they stand down and leave. He says that he loves her, and even without Republic City they can still get married and rule the rest of the Earth Empire together. As he\\\'s speaking with her, Kuvira traces the radio signal to where he\\\'s being held by Korra. Once she has the location, Kuvira tells Baatar she\\\'ll back down and she loves him. [[ShootTheHostage Then she fires her superweapon on the warehouse where he\\\'s being held]], willing to sacrifice him just for the chance to kill Korra.]] At the very least, her tone of voice and body language indicate that she feels some regret over what she\\\'s doing, but her act still proves that her empire and her ideology [[TheUnfettered come before everything else.]] In-universe, [[spoiler: Baatar Jr. considers this Kuvira\\\'s MEH; he divorces her and gives the new Gaang all the information they need to take her down. \\\'\\\'Ruins of the Empire\\\'\\\' confirms that he doesn\\\'t forgive her and refuses to reconcile. He explicitly says that if the roles were reversed, he wouldn\\\'t have fired a cannon at her to remove any leverage]].
* In-universe, Baatar Jr.\\\'s family feels he crossed it by siding with Kuvira and imprisoning them, except for Suyin who feels that [[spoiler:he received enough punishment when Kuvira tried to kill him]]. They still treat him with hostility and awkwardness, even his own father, and his little sister Opal is never letting him live it down. Baatar Jr. himself feels that he deserves the punishment of [[spoiler:house arrest with a parent and many siblings who hate his guts]] and is working to make up for his mistake with [[spoiler:the deprogramming machine]]. Whether or not he can uncross the MEH is up to the readers.
I don’t think these qualify because:
Tarrlok suffers a MAJOR BreakTheHaughty phase, expresses a HeelRealization, and commits a double murder-suicide as a RedemptionEqualsDeath act.
Hiroshi Sato suffers a BreakTheBeliever phase when he serves a sentence in jail, expressing remorse, and wanting to [[TheAtoner atone]] for his obscene actions. He finally pulls a RedemptionEqualsDeath act.
Varrick undergoes a BreakTheHaughty phase in Season 4, has a HeelFaceTurn, and earns a happy ending with Zhu Li.
Kuvira relents in spectacular fashion in Season 4, has a HeelRealization, humbly allows herself to be jailed, and the \\\'\\\'Ruins of the Empire\\\'\\\' comic is basically a HumiliationConga that inspires her to be TheAtoner.
Bataar Jr. has a HeelRealization, a HeelFaceTurn, and humbly accepts the (justified) abuse from his family.
With all of that said, should I cut these entries?
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I saw these in the [[MoralEventHorizon/AvatarTheLastAirbender Moral Event Horizon]] page; namely, in the [[WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra \'\'Legend of Korra\'\']] section.
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I saw these in the [[MoralEventHorizon/AvatarTheLastAirbender ATLA Moral Event Horizon]] page; namely, in the [[WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra \\\'\\\'Legend of Korra\\\'\\\']] section.
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* In the episode \\\"When Extremes Meet\\\", Councilman Tarrlok crosses it when enacts a curfew on a Non-Bender district of Republic City, shuts off the power to said district so he can arrest those who \\\"break curfew\\\" as they come out to complain, arrests the new Team Avatar for trying to help them and to top all off, bloodbends Korra and has her exiled from Republic City and left to die alone, locked in a box.
* [[spoiler: Hiroshi Sato]] goes flying over the MEH when [[spoiler: he abandons the only family connection that still made him somewhat sympathetic and tries to kill his own daughter, reasoning that \\\"she can\\\'t be saved\\\" because of her sympathy for benders. This, combined with joining the Equalists to eradicate bending after the death of his wife, and any atrocities he contributed to because of his weaponry, he nullifies the only FreudianExcuse he had going for him. Even when he returns in Book 4 having seen the error of his ways, it\\\'s made abundantly clear that his actions in Book 1 crossed a line and that he has no right to expect either Asami\\\'s or the audience\\\'s forgiveness.]]
* [[spoiler:Varrick]] deliberately bankrupting Asami in order to absorb Future Industries. It\\\'s the moment he went from \\\"lovable crazy guy\\\" to \\\"hideously evil scumbag [[LaughablyEvil that happens to be entertaining]]\\\".
* While Kuvira lost more and more of her apparent redeeming qualities over time, she seems to finally cross the line in \\\'\\\'Kuvira\\\'s Gambit\\\'\\\'. [[spoiler:In the episode, Korra manages to capture Kuvira\\\'s fiancé, Baatar Jr., as Kuvira is trying to take over Republic City with her new super weapon. Baatar contacts her and tells her that Korra is threatening to take him away from her forever unless they stand down and leave. He says that he loves her, and even without Republic City they can still get married and rule the rest of the Earth Empire together. As he\\\'s speaking with her, Kuvira traces the radio signal to where he\\\'s being held by Korra. Once she has the location, Kuvira tells Baatar she\\\'ll back down and she loves him. [[ShootTheHostage Then she fires her superweapon on the warehouse where he\\\'s being held]], willing to sacrifice him just for the chance to kill Korra.]] At the very least, her tone of voice and body language indicate that she feels some regret over what she\\\'s doing, but her act still proves that her empire and her ideology [[TheUnfettered come before everything else.]] In-universe, [[spoiler: Baatar Jr. considers this Kuvira\\\'s MEH; he divorces her and gives the new Gaang all the information they need to take her down. \\\'\\\'Ruins of the Empire\\\'\\\' confirms that he doesn\\\'t forgive her and refuses to reconcile. He explicitly says that if the roles were reversed, he wouldn\\\'t have fired a cannon at her to remove any leverage]].
* In-universe, Baatar Jr.\\\'s family feels he crossed it by siding with Kuvira and imprisoning them, except for Suyin who feels that [[spoiler:he received enough punishment when Kuvira tried to kill him]]. They still treat him with hostility and awkwardness, even his own father, and his little sister Opal is never letting him live it down. Baatar Jr. himself feels that he deserves the punishment of [[spoiler:house arrest with a parent and many siblings who hate his guts]] and is working to make up for his mistake with [[spoiler:the deprogramming machine]]. Whether or not he can uncross the MEH is up to the readers.
I don’t think these qualify because:
Tarrlok suffers a MAJOR BreakTheHaughty phase, expresses a HeelRealization, and commits a double murder-suicide as a RedemptionEqualsDeath act.
Hiroshi Sato suffers a BreakTheBeliever phase when he serves a sentence in jail, expressing remorse, and wanting to [[TheAtoner atone]] for his obscene actions. He finally pulls a RedemptionEqualsDeath act.
Varrick undergoes a BreakTheHaughty phase in Season 4, has a HeelFaceTurn, and earns a happy ending with Zhu Li.
Kuvira relents in spectacular fashion in Season 4, has a HeelRealization, humbly allows herself to be jailed, and the \\\'\\\'Ruins of the Empire\\\'\\\' comic is basically a HumiliationConga that inspires her to be TheAtoner.
Bataar Jr. has a HeelRealization, a HeelFaceTurn, and humbly accepts the (justified) abuse from his family.
With all of that said, should I cut these entries?
* [[spoiler: Hiroshi Sato]] goes flying over the MEH when [[spoiler: he abandons the only family connection that still made him somewhat sympathetic and tries to kill his own daughter, reasoning that \\\"she can\\\'t be saved\\\" because of her sympathy for benders. This, combined with joining the Equalists to eradicate bending after the death of his wife, and any atrocities he contributed to because of his weaponry, he nullifies the only FreudianExcuse he had going for him. Even when he returns in Book 4 having seen the error of his ways, it\\\'s made abundantly clear that his actions in Book 1 crossed a line and that he has no right to expect either Asami\\\'s or the audience\\\'s forgiveness.]]
* [[spoiler:Varrick]] deliberately bankrupting Asami in order to absorb Future Industries. It\\\'s the moment he went from \\\"lovable crazy guy\\\" to \\\"hideously evil scumbag [[LaughablyEvil that happens to be entertaining]]\\\".
* While Kuvira lost more and more of her apparent redeeming qualities over time, she seems to finally cross the line in \\\'\\\'Kuvira\\\'s Gambit\\\'\\\'. [[spoiler:In the episode, Korra manages to capture Kuvira\\\'s fiancé, Baatar Jr., as Kuvira is trying to take over Republic City with her new super weapon. Baatar contacts her and tells her that Korra is threatening to take him away from her forever unless they stand down and leave. He says that he loves her, and even without Republic City they can still get married and rule the rest of the Earth Empire together. As he\\\'s speaking with her, Kuvira traces the radio signal to where he\\\'s being held by Korra. Once she has the location, Kuvira tells Baatar she\\\'ll back down and she loves him. [[ShootTheHostage Then she fires her superweapon on the warehouse where he\\\'s being held]], willing to sacrifice him just for the chance to kill Korra.]] At the very least, her tone of voice and body language indicate that she feels some regret over what she\\\'s doing, but her act still proves that her empire and her ideology [[TheUnfettered come before everything else.]] In-universe, [[spoiler: Baatar Jr. considers this Kuvira\\\'s MEH; he divorces her and gives the new Gaang all the information they need to take her down. \\\'\\\'Ruins of the Empire\\\'\\\' confirms that he doesn\\\'t forgive her and refuses to reconcile. He explicitly says that if the roles were reversed, he wouldn\\\'t have fired a cannon at her to remove any leverage]].
* In-universe, Baatar Jr.\\\'s family feels he crossed it by siding with Kuvira and imprisoning them, except for Suyin who feels that [[spoiler:he received enough punishment when Kuvira tried to kill him]]. They still treat him with hostility and awkwardness, even his own father, and his little sister Opal is never letting him live it down. Baatar Jr. himself feels that he deserves the punishment of [[spoiler:house arrest with a parent and many siblings who hate his guts]] and is working to make up for his mistake with [[spoiler:the deprogramming machine]]. Whether or not he can uncross the MEH is up to the readers.
I don’t think these qualify because:
Tarrlok suffers a MAJOR BreakTheHaughty phase, expresses a HeelRealization, and commits a double murder-suicide as a RedemptionEqualsDeath act.
Hiroshi Sato suffers a BreakTheBeliever phase when he serves a sentence in jail, expressing remorse, and wanting to [[TheAtoner atone]] for his obscene actions. He finally pulls a RedemptionEqualsDeath act.
Varrick undergoes a BreakTheHaughty phase in Season 4, has a HeelFaceTurn, and earns a happy ending with Zhu Li.
Kuvira relents in spectacular fashion in Season 4, has a HeelRealization, humbly allows herself to be jailed, and the \\\'\\\'Ruins of the Empire\\\'\\\' comic is basically a HumiliationConga that inspires her to be TheAtoner.
Bataar Jr. has a HeelRealization, a HeelFaceTurn, and humbly accepts the (justified) abuse from his family.
With all of that said, should I cut these entries?
