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Hello, I\'ve been debating with myself over whether the trope ManipulativeBastard fits in Adrien\'s folder. Here\'s what I put in for a second and them removed due to being unsure:
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Hello, I\\\'ve been debating with myself over whether the trope ManipulativeBastard fits in Adrien\\\'s folder. Here\\\'s what I put in for a second and then removed due to being unsure:
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** Despite repeatedly insisting that Lila didn\'t do much damage up until the point she [[spoiler:stole his 50 mil]] and effectively helping her get away with her crimes because that served him best at the time, Adrien\'s fully willing to use [[spoiler:the class\' anger at TheReveal that she was a ConArtist and their pity towards his own loss to garner support against Lila in the hopes of convincing someone with influence to help him in particular. He becomes a leader-figure in the class\' planning sessions despite conveniently leaving out that he knew Lila was a ConArtist and didn\'t consider anything she stole from \'\'them\'\' to be worth defending,]] fully willing to use their feelings for his own benefit, even if he\'s proven he thinks the reason for their anger \
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** Despite repeatedly insisting that Lila didn\\\'t do much damage up until the point she [[spoiler:stole his 50 mil]] and effectively helping her get away with her crimes because that served him best at the time, Adrien\\\'s fully willing to use [[spoiler:the class\\\' anger at TheReveal that she was a ConArtist and their pity towards his own loss to garner support against Lila in the hopes of convincing someone with influence to help him in particular. He becomes a leader-figure in the class\\\' planning sessions despite conveniently leaving out that he knew Lila was a ConArtist and didn\\\'t consider anything she stole from \\\'\\\'them\\\'\\\' to be worth defending,]] fully willing to use their feelings for his own benefit, even if he\\\'s proven he thinks the reason for their anger \\\"isn\\\'t a big deal\\\" or worth acting on otherwise. [[spoiler:The class directly calls him out for this when they find out, stating that if Lila had never stolen from him in particular, [[FalseFriend he wouldn\\\'t have cared to attend their meeting]] or would be trying to protect her even now.]]
It is true that Adrien did all of this and intended to use others\\\' in this manner without disclosing the truth of the situation for his benefit, but Adrien is so seemingly oblivious and and lacking self-awareness of the morality of his own actions that I\\\'m unsure if this characterization fits a trope as malicious as ManipulativeBastard, even though he does openly discuss his plans to use others to get what he wants in the story.
Thoughts?
It is true that Adrien did all of this and intended to use others\\\' in this manner without disclosing the truth of the situation for his benefit, but Adrien is so seemingly oblivious and and lacking self-awareness of the morality of his own actions that I\\\'m unsure if this characterization fits a trope as malicious as ManipulativeBastard, even though he does openly discuss his plans to use others to get what he wants in the story.
Thoughts?
