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As far as I understand it, @Snake thinks Daemon is comparatively less bad than other characters and I\'m being mean and overly harsh by pointing out his flaws. I think that how he compares to other characters isn\'t relevant here; this isn\'t a comparative character trope like {{Foil}} or something.
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As far as I understand it, {{Tropers/Snake}} thinks Daemon is comparatively less bad than other characters and I\\\'m being mean and overly harsh by pointing out his flaws. I think that how he compares to other characters isn\\\'t relevant here; this isn\\\'t a comparative character trope like {{Foil}} or something.
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The deconstruction is that no, actually there \'\'is\'\' some overlap between how a man acts outside his marriage and how he will act within it, and that expecting otherwise is naïve. In my latest edit I tried to really clarify this by listing out specific character traits that are first established by Daemon\'s interactions with others and then later exhibited in interactions with Rhaenyra in [[Recap/HouseOfTheDragonS1E10TheBlackQueen episode 10]].
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The deconstruction is that no, actually there \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' some overlap between how a man acts outside his marriage and how he will act within it, and that expecting otherwise is naïve.
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-> With others, Daemon sometimes [[TheVoiceless doesn\'t speak for entire scenes]]; in his marriage he will not share his own grief with his wife, preferring taciturn solitude even if it hurts her.
->With others, Daemon is a loose canon who routinely acts without leave; in his marriage he\'s quick to take matters into his own hands as Rhaenyra\'s chief general, without always consulting his newly crowned queen.
->With others, Daemon is violent, impulsive, and quick to anger; in his marriage, a moment of rage culminates in DomesticAbuse.
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The core idea of ReformedRake is \\\'\\\'he\\\'s different with her\\\'\\\'. And generally speaking Daemon \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' different with Rhaenyra that he is with everyone else--but only to an extent. In my latest edit I tried to really clarify this by listing out specific character traits that are first established by Daemon\\\'s interactions with others and then later exhibited in interactions with Rhaenyra in [[Recap/HouseOfTheDragonS1E10TheBlackQueen episode 10]].
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The core idea of ReformedRake is \'\'he\'s different with her\'\'. And, generally speaking, Daemon \'\'is\'\' different with Rhaenyra that he is with everyone else. But he\'s not 100% different 100% of the time.
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-> With others, Daemon sometimes [[TheVoiceless doesn\\\'t speak for entire scenes]]; in his marriage he doesn\\\'t share his own grief with his wife after a miscarriage, preferring taciturn solitude even if it hurts her.
->With others, Daemon is a loose canon who routinely acts without leave; in his marriage he\\\'s quick to take matters into his own hands as Rhaenyra\\\'s chief general, without always consulting his newly crowned queen.
->With others, Daemon is violent, impulsive, and quick to anger; in his marriage, a moment of rage culminates in DomesticAbuse.
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As far as I understand it, @Snake thinks Daemon is comparatively less bad than other characters and I\'m being mean and overly harsh by pointing out his flaws. I think that how he compares to other characters isn\'t relevant here, this isn\'t a comparative character trope like {{Foil}} or something.
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As far as I understand it, @Snake thinks Daemon is comparatively less bad than other characters and I\\\'m being mean and overly harsh by pointing out his flaws. I think that how he compares to other characters isn\\\'t relevant here; this isn\\\'t a comparative character trope like {{Foil}} or something.
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The core idea of ReformedRake is \\\'\\\'he\\\'s different with her\\\'\\\'. And, generally speaking, Daemon \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' different with Rhaenyra that he is with everyone else. But he\\\'s not 100% different 100% of the time.
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As far as I understand it, the other person thinks Daemon is comparatively less bad than other characters and I\'m being mean and overly harsh by pointing out his flaws. I think that how he compares to other characters isn\'t relevant here, this isn\'t a comparative character trope like {{Foil}} or something.
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As far as I understand it, @Snake thinks Daemon is comparatively less bad than other characters and I\\\'m being mean and overly harsh by pointing out his flaws. I think that how he compares to other characters isn\\\'t relevant here, this isn\\\'t a comparative character trope like {{Foil}} or something.
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The deconstruction is that no, actually there \'\'is\'\' some overlap between how a man acts outside his marriage and how he will act within it, and that expecting otherwise is naïve. In my latest edit I tried to really clarify this by listing out specific character traits that are first established by Daemon\'s interactions with others and then later exhibited in interactions with Rhaenyra.
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The deconstruction is that no, actually there \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' some overlap between how a man acts outside his marriage and how he will act within it, and that expecting otherwise is naïve. In my latest edit I tried to really clarify this by listing out specific character traits that are first established by Daemon\\\'s interactions with others and then later exhibited in interactions with Rhaenyra in [[Recap/HouseOfTheDragonS1E10TheBlackQueen episode 10]].
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As far as I understand it, the other person thinks Daemon is comparatively less bad than other characters and I\'m being mean and overly harsh by pointing out his flaws.
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As far as I understand it, the other person thinks Daemon is comparatively less bad than other characters and I\\\'m being mean and overly harsh by pointing out his flaws. I think that how he compares to other characters isn\\\'t relevant here, this isn\\\'t a comparative character trope like {{Foil}} or something.
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As far as I understand it, the other person thinks Daemon is great and I\'m being mean and overly harsh by saying this.
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As far as I understand it, the other person thinks Daemon is comparatively less bad than other characters and I\\\'m being mean and overly harsh by pointing out his flaws.
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-> With others, Daemon sometimes [[TheVoiceless doesn\'t speak for entire scenes]]; in his marriage he will not share his own grief with his wife, preferring taciturn solitude even if it hurts her.\\\\With others, Daemon is a loose canon who routinely acts without leave; in his marriage he\'s quick to take matters into his own hands as Rhaenyra\'s chief general, without always consulting his newly crowned queen.\\\\With others, Daemon is violent, impulsive, and quick to anger; in his marriage, a moment of rage culminates in DomesticAbuse.
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-> With others, Daemon sometimes [[TheVoiceless doesn\\\'t speak for entire scenes]]; in his marriage he will not share his own grief with his wife, preferring taciturn solitude even if it hurts her.
->With others, Daemon is a loose canon who routinely acts without leave; in his marriage he\\\'s quick to take matters into his own hands as Rhaenyra\\\'s chief general, without always consulting his newly crowned queen.
->With others, Daemon is violent, impulsive, and quick to anger; in his marriage, a moment of rage culminates in DomesticAbuse.
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-> With others, Daemon sometimes [[TheVoiceless doesn\\\'t speak for entire scenes]]; in his marriage he will not share his own grief with his wife, preferring taciturn solitude even if it hurts her.\\\\\\\\With others, Daemon is a loose canon who routinely acts without leave; in his marriage he\\\'s quick to take matters into his own hands as Rhaenyra\\\'s chief general, without always consulting his newly crowned queen.\\\\\\\\With others, Daemon is violent, impulsive, and quick to anger; in his marriage, a moment of rage culminates in DomesticAbuse.
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In the real-life section, there is a series of entries about \
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In the real-life section, there is a series of entries about \\\"loaded questions\\\" and questions used by bullies to embarrass you.

\\\'\\\'\\\'Examples\\\'\\\'\\\'
* Are you a homo? If yes, you are a homosexual; if no, you\\\'re not human (a member of species Homo sapiens). A good third option is \\\"I\\\'m just as much of a homo as you are.\\\" (be prepared for a punch in the face, however).
* \\\"Do you have HIV?\\\" No. \\\"Are you positive?\\\" If you say yes, you\\\'re \\\"positive\\\" in the sense of being \\\"HIV positive\\\"; if you say no, you\\\'re \\\"not positive\\\" in the sense of \\\"not positive that you don\\\'t have HIV\\\". The way around this one is to say, “I am positive that I don’t have HIV.(note If you actually are HIV positive, then this would be an Insult Backfire, though.)
* \\\"Have you stopped beating your wife?\\\" If you say no, then you beat your wife. If you say yes, then you admit to having beaten your wife. The only way to escape is to say that you have never beaten your wife (or that you aren’t married).
* \\\"Are you embarrassed that you soiled your pants today?\\\" If yes, you admit to soiling your pants. If no, you admit to soiling your pants, and you\\\'re a weirdo who doesn\\\'t see anything embarrassing about that. You can also replace \\\"pants\\\" with \\\"diaper\\\" to add the extra embarrassment of not being toilet-trained. Possible counter: Say no because you do dirty work (\\\"Hey, someone\\\'s gotta do it\\\"). Or turn it around (\\\"Why would you know if someone did that or not? What are you, a poop fetishist?\\\").

My question is how do these count as entries? To me, it defeats the purpose of being a morton\\\'s fork if there are specific responses in order to get out of them. Can someone explain this to me?
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