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\\\"All that there is came from the One Great. Then came fractures, and births, and souls. But the Greater Will made a mistake. Torment, despair, affliction... every sin, every curse. Every one, born of the mistake. And so, what was borrowed must be returned. Melt it all away, with the yellow chaos flame. Until all is One again.\\\"
Your point also seems to be based on the idea that there was an \\\"Age of Stone\\\" prior to the Greater Will.... and for the life of me, I have no idea where you got this. I checked the game\\\'s script. \\\"Age of Stone\\\" occurs nowhere within it, not in any item description or dialogue. Are you confusing Elden Ring with Dark Souls, or is this another fan idea that\\\'s just proliferated? Placidusax ruled before the Age of the Erdtree, but again, Erdtree =/= Greater Will, and this time is never called \\\"the Age of Stone.\\\" Placidusax is only ever referred to as a ruling Elden Lord, a title that\\\'s clearly tied to the Greater Will and nothing else (same as how \\\"Elden Beast\\\" is the title of the Beast vassalized to the Greater Will).
Your third point is reliant on the idea that the Greater Will = the Two Fingers, but that is very explicitly not the case. The Two Fingers are grasping at straws in the present, like anyone else, having no idea what the Greater Will or even its other servants are thinking. That\\\'s why the Two Fingers in Roundtable Hold are caught completely off guard by the idea that the Erdtree is blocking the entrance to the Elden Ring\\\'s chamber, because they and the Elden Beast are not in touch. Most likely because the Greater Will has stopped communicating with them.
EDIT: also, I just checked v 1.0. There\\\'s some now-removed text on the description of the Cinquedea which outright says that the god of Farum Azula (where Placidusax resides) is the Greater Will.
\\\"1110000 Short sword given to high ranking pastors of Farum Azula. Raises potency of bestial incantations. The design celebrates a beast\\\'s five fingers, symbolic of the intelligence granted by the Greater Will.\\\"
Your point also seems to be based on the idea that there was an \\\"Age of Stone\\\" prior to the Greater Will.... and for the life of me, I have no idea where you got this. I checked the game\\\'s script. \\\"Age of Stone\\\" occurs nowhere within it, not in any item description or dialogue. Are you confusing Elden Ring with Dark Souls, or is this another fan idea that\\\'s just proliferated? Placidusax ruled before the Age of the Erdtree, but again, Erdtree =/= Greater Will, and this time is never called \\\"the Age of Stone.\\\" Placidusax is only ever referred to as a ruling Elden Lord, a title that\\\'s clearly tied to the Greater Will and nothing else (same as how \\\"Elden Beast\\\" is the title of the Beast vassalized to the Greater Will).
Your third point is reliant on the idea that the Greater Will = the Two Fingers, but that is very explicitly not the case. The Two Fingers are grasping at straws in the present, like anyone else, having no idea what the Greater Will or even its other servants are thinking. That\\\'s why the Two Fingers in Roundtable Hold are caught completely off guard by the idea that the Erdtree is blocking the entrance to the Elden Ring\\\'s chamber, because they and the Elden Beast are not in touch. Most likely because the Greater Will has stopped communicating with them.
EDIT: also, I just checked v 1.0. There\\\'s some now-removed text on the description of the Cinquedea which outright says that the god of Farum Azula (where Placidusax resides) is the Greater Will.
\\\"1110000 Short sword given to high ranking pastors of Farum Azula. Raises potency of bestial incantations. The design celebrates a beast\\\'s five fingers, symbolic of the intelligence granted by the Greater Will.\\\"
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\\\"All that there is came from the One Great. Then came fractures, and births, and souls. But the Greater Will made a mistake. Torment, despair, affliction... every sin, every curse. Every one, born of the mistake. And so, what was borrowed must be returned. Melt it all away, with the yellow chaos flame. Until all is One again.\\\"
Your point also seems to be based on the idea that there was an \\\"Age of Stone\\\" prior to the Greater Will.... and for the life of me, I have no idea where you got this. I checked the game\\\'s script. \\\"Age of Stone\\\" occurs nowhere within it, not in any item description or dialogue. Are you confusing Elden Ring with Dark Souls, or is this another fan idea that\\\'s just proliferated? Placidusax ruled before the Age of the Erdtree, but again, Erdtree =/= Greater Will, and this time is never called \\\"the Age of Stone.\\\" Placidusax is only ever referred to as a ruling Elden Lord, a title that\\\'s clearly tied to the Greater Will and nothing else (same as how \\\"Elden Beast\\\" is the title of the Beast vassalized to the Greater Will).
Your third point is reliant on the idea that the Greater Will = the Two Fingers, but that is very explicitly not the case. The Two Fingers are grasping at straws in the present, like anyone else, having no idea what the Greater Will or even its other servants are thinking. That\\\'s why the Two Fingers in Roundtable Hold are caught completely off guard by the idea that the Erdtree is blocking the entrance to the Elden Ring\\\'s chamber, because they and the Elden Beast are not in touch. Most likely because the Greater Will has stopped communicating with them.
Your point also seems to be based on the idea that there was an \\\"Age of Stone\\\" prior to the Greater Will.... and for the life of me, I have no idea where you got this. I checked the game\\\'s script. \\\"Age of Stone\\\" occurs nowhere within it, not in any item description or dialogue. Are you confusing Elden Ring with Dark Souls, or is this another fan idea that\\\'s just proliferated? Placidusax ruled before the Age of the Erdtree, but again, Erdtree =/= Greater Will, and this time is never called \\\"the Age of Stone.\\\" Placidusax is only ever referred to as a ruling Elden Lord, a title that\\\'s clearly tied to the Greater Will and nothing else (same as how \\\"Elden Beast\\\" is the title of the Beast vassalized to the Greater Will).
Your third point is reliant on the idea that the Greater Will = the Two Fingers, but that is very explicitly not the case. The Two Fingers are grasping at straws in the present, like anyone else, having no idea what the Greater Will or even its other servants are thinking. That\\\'s why the Two Fingers in Roundtable Hold are caught completely off guard by the idea that the Erdtree is blocking the entrance to the Elden Ring\\\'s chamber, because they and the Elden Beast are not in touch. Most likely because the Greater Will has stopped communicating with them.
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\\\"All that there is came from the One Great. Then came fractures, and births, and souls. But the Greater Will made a mistake. Torment, despair, affliction... every sin, every curse. Every one, born of the mistake. And so, what was borrowed must be returned. Melt it all away, with the yellow chaos flame. Until all is One again.\\\"
Your point also seems to be based on the idea that there was an \\\"Age of Stone\\\" prior to the Greater Will.... and for the life of me, I have no idea where you got this. I checked the game\\\'s script. \\\"Age of Stone\\\" occurs nowhere within it, not in any item description or dialogue. Are you confusing Elden Ring with Dark Souls, or is this another fan idea that\\\'s just proliferated? Placidusax ruled before the Age of the Erdtree, but again, Erdtree =/= Greater Will, and this time is never called \\\"the Age of Stone.\\\" Placidusax is only ever referred to as a ruling Elden Lord, a title that\\\'s clearly tied to the Greater Will and nothing else (same as how \\\"Elden Beast\\\" is the title of the Beast vassalized to the Greater Will).
Your third point is reliant on the idea that the Greater Will = the Two Fingers, but that is very explicitly not the case. The Two Fingers are grasping at straws in the present, like anyone else, having no idea what the Greater Will or even its other servants are thinking. That\\\'s why the Two Fingers in Roundtable Hold are caught completely off guard by the idea that the Erdtree is blocking the entrance to the Elden Ring\\\'s chamber, because they and the Elden Beast are not in touch. Most likely because the Greater Will has stopped communicating with them.
And where is it ever stated that the Black Knives work for the Two Fingers?
Your point also seems to be based on the idea that there was an \\\"Age of Stone\\\" prior to the Greater Will.... and for the life of me, I have no idea where you got this. I checked the game\\\'s script. \\\"Age of Stone\\\" occurs nowhere within it, not in any item description or dialogue. Are you confusing Elden Ring with Dark Souls, or is this another fan idea that\\\'s just proliferated? Placidusax ruled before the Age of the Erdtree, but again, Erdtree =/= Greater Will, and this time is never called \\\"the Age of Stone.\\\" Placidusax is only ever referred to as a ruling Elden Lord, a title that\\\'s clearly tied to the Greater Will and nothing else (same as how \\\"Elden Beast\\\" is the title of the Beast vassalized to the Greater Will).
Your third point is reliant on the idea that the Greater Will = the Two Fingers, but that is very explicitly not the case. The Two Fingers are grasping at straws in the present, like anyone else, having no idea what the Greater Will or even its other servants are thinking. That\\\'s why the Two Fingers in Roundtable Hold are caught completely off guard by the idea that the Erdtree is blocking the entrance to the Elden Ring\\\'s chamber, because they and the Elden Beast are not in touch. Most likely because the Greater Will has stopped communicating with them.
And where is it ever stated that the Black Knives work for the Two Fingers?
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\\\"All that there is came from the One Great. Then came fractures, and births, and souls. But the Greater Will made a mistake. Torment, despair, affliction... every sin, every curse. Every one, born of the mistake. And so, what was borrowed must be returned. Melt it all away, with the yellow chaos flame. Until all is One again.\\\"
Your point also seems to be based on the idea that there was an \\\"Age of Stone\\\" prior to the Greater Will.... and for the life of me, I have no idea where you got this. I checked the game\\\'s script. \\\"Age of Stone\\\" occurs nowhere within it, not in any item description or dialogue. Are you confusing Elden Ring with Dark Souls, or is this another fan idea that\\\'s just proliferated? Placidusax ruled before the Age of the Erdtree, but again, Erdtree =/= Greater Will, and this time is never called \\\"the Age of Stone.\\\" Placidusax is only ever referred to as a ruling Elden Lord, a title that\\\'s clearly tied to the Greater Will and nothing else (same as how \\\"Elden Beast\\\" is the title of the Greater Will Beast).
Your third point is reliant on the idea that the Greater Will = the Two Fingers, but that is very explicitly not the case. The Two Fingers are grasping at straws in the present, like anyone else, having no idea what the Greater Will or even its other servants are thinking. That\\\'s why the Two Fingers in Roundtable Hold are caught completely off guard by the idea that the Erdtree is blocking the entrance to the Elden Ring\\\'s chamber, because they and the Elden Beast are not in touch. Most likely because the Greater Will has stopped communicating with them.
And where is it ever stated that the Black Knives work for the Two Fingers?
Your point also seems to be based on the idea that there was an \\\"Age of Stone\\\" prior to the Greater Will.... and for the life of me, I have no idea where you got this. I checked the game\\\'s script. \\\"Age of Stone\\\" occurs nowhere within it, not in any item description or dialogue. Are you confusing Elden Ring with Dark Souls, or is this another fan idea that\\\'s just proliferated? Placidusax ruled before the Age of the Erdtree, but again, Erdtree =/= Greater Will, and this time is never called \\\"the Age of Stone.\\\" Placidusax is only ever referred to as a ruling Elden Lord, a title that\\\'s clearly tied to the Greater Will and nothing else (same as how \\\"Elden Beast\\\" is the title of the Greater Will Beast).
Your third point is reliant on the idea that the Greater Will = the Two Fingers, but that is very explicitly not the case. The Two Fingers are grasping at straws in the present, like anyone else, having no idea what the Greater Will or even its other servants are thinking. That\\\'s why the Two Fingers in Roundtable Hold are caught completely off guard by the idea that the Erdtree is blocking the entrance to the Elden Ring\\\'s chamber, because they and the Elden Beast are not in touch. Most likely because the Greater Will has stopped communicating with them.
And where is it ever stated that the Black Knives work for the Two Fingers?
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\\\"All that there is came from the One Great. Then came fractures, and births, and souls. But the Greater Will made a mistake. Torment, despair, affliction... every sin, every curse. Every one, born of the mistake. And so, what was borrowed must be returned. Melt it all away, with the yellow chaos flame. Until all is One again.\\\"
Your point also seems to be based on the idea that there was an \\\"Age of Stone\\\" prior to the Greater Will.... and for the life of me, I have no idea where you got this. I checked the game\\\'s script. \\\"Age of Stone\\\" occurs nowhere within it, not in any item description or dialogue. Are you confusing Elden Ring with Dark Souls, or is this another fan idea that\\\'s just proliferated? Placidusax ruled before the Age of the Erdtree, but again, Erdtree =/= Greater Will, and this time is never called \\\"the Age of Stone.\\\" Placidusax is only ever referred to as a ruling Elden Lord, a title that\\\'s clearly tied to the Greater Will and nothing else.
Your third point is reliant on the idea that the Greater Will = the Two Fingers, but that is very explicitly not the case. The Two Fingers are grasping at straws in the present, like anyone else, having no idea what the Greater Will or even its other servants are thinking. That\\\'s why the Two Fingers in Roundtable Hold are caught completely off guard by the idea that the Erdtree is blocking the entrance to the Elden Ring\\\'s chamber, because they and the Elden Beast are not in touch. Most likely because the Greater Will has stopped communicating with them.
And where is it ever stated that the Black Knives work for the Two Fingers?
Your point also seems to be based on the idea that there was an \\\"Age of Stone\\\" prior to the Greater Will.... and for the life of me, I have no idea where you got this. I checked the game\\\'s script. \\\"Age of Stone\\\" occurs nowhere within it, not in any item description or dialogue. Are you confusing Elden Ring with Dark Souls, or is this another fan idea that\\\'s just proliferated? Placidusax ruled before the Age of the Erdtree, but again, Erdtree =/= Greater Will, and this time is never called \\\"the Age of Stone.\\\" Placidusax is only ever referred to as a ruling Elden Lord, a title that\\\'s clearly tied to the Greater Will and nothing else.
Your third point is reliant on the idea that the Greater Will = the Two Fingers, but that is very explicitly not the case. The Two Fingers are grasping at straws in the present, like anyone else, having no idea what the Greater Will or even its other servants are thinking. That\\\'s why the Two Fingers in Roundtable Hold are caught completely off guard by the idea that the Erdtree is blocking the entrance to the Elden Ring\\\'s chamber, because they and the Elden Beast are not in touch. Most likely because the Greater Will has stopped communicating with them.
And where is it ever stated that the Black Knives work for the Two Fingers?
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Your reading is entirely reliant on the idea that the Greater Will is the same thing as the Erdtree. In fact, the Greater Will had been established in the Lands Between since long before the Erdtree even existed, and Miquella is still in touch with the Greater Will while seeking to supplant the Erdtree. What\'s more, Hyetta makes it clear that the Greater Will is the source of \'\'sapient life in the Lands Between in general,\'\' disproving the idea that there was an age before it. Because that\'d include the dragons.
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Your reading is entirely reliant on the idea that the Greater Will is the same thing as the Erdtree. In fact, the Greater Will had been established in the Lands Between since long before the Erdtree even existed, there are countless interchangeable Erdtrees, and Miquella is still in touch with the Greater Will while seeking to supplant the Erdtree. What\\\'s more, Hyetta makes it clear that the Greater Will is the source of \\\'\\\'sapient life in the Lands Between in general,\\\'\\\' disproving the idea that there was an age before it. Because that\\\'d include the dragons.
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\\\"All that there is came from the One Great. Then came fractures, and births, and souls. But the Greater Will made a mistake. Torment, despair, affliction... every sin, every curse. Every one, born of the mistake. And so, what was borrowed must be returned. Melt it all away, with the yellow chaos flame. Until all is One again.\\\"
Your point also seems to be based on the idea that there was an \\\"Age of Stone\\\" prior to the Greater Will.... and for the life of me, I have no idea where you got this. I checked the game\\\'s script. \\\"Age of Stone\\\" occurs nowhere within it, not in any item description or dialogue. Are you confusing Elden Ring with Dark Souls, or is this another fan idea that\\\'s just proliferated? Placidusax ruled before the Age of the Erdtree, but again, Erdtree =/= Greater Will, and this time is never called \\\"the Age of Stone.\\\" Placidusax is only ever referred to as a ruling Elden Lord, a title that\\\'s clearly tied to the Greater Will and nothing else.
Your third point is reliant on the idea that the Greater Will = the Two Fingers, but that is very explicitly not the case. The Two Fingers are grasping at straws in the present, like anyone else, having no idea what the Greater Will or even its other servants are thinking. That\\\'s why the Two Fingers in Roundtable Hold are caught completely off guard by the idea that the Erdtree is blocking the entrance to the Elden Ring\\\'s chamber, because they and the Elden Beast are not in touch. Most likely because the Greater Will has stopped communicating with them.
Your point also seems to be based on the idea that there was an \\\"Age of Stone\\\" prior to the Greater Will.... and for the life of me, I have no idea where you got this. I checked the game\\\'s script. \\\"Age of Stone\\\" occurs nowhere within it, not in any item description or dialogue. Are you confusing Elden Ring with Dark Souls, or is this another fan idea that\\\'s just proliferated? Placidusax ruled before the Age of the Erdtree, but again, Erdtree =/= Greater Will, and this time is never called \\\"the Age of Stone.\\\" Placidusax is only ever referred to as a ruling Elden Lord, a title that\\\'s clearly tied to the Greater Will and nothing else.
Your third point is reliant on the idea that the Greater Will = the Two Fingers, but that is very explicitly not the case. The Two Fingers are grasping at straws in the present, like anyone else, having no idea what the Greater Will or even its other servants are thinking. That\\\'s why the Two Fingers in Roundtable Hold are caught completely off guard by the idea that the Erdtree is blocking the entrance to the Elden Ring\\\'s chamber, because they and the Elden Beast are not in touch. Most likely because the Greater Will has stopped communicating with them.
