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The crap in the middle is the gameplay of the RPG. Whether you like JRPGs or not (I do, incidentally) you have to admit the gameplay isn\'t exactly riveting. It\'s basically \
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The crap in the middle is the gameplay of the RPG. Whether you like JRPGs or not (I do, incidentally) you have to admit the gameplay isn\\\'t exactly riveting. It\\\'s basically \\\"get in a random encounter, click menu buttons until the monster dies, repeat.\\\"
The bells and whistles are why you play. They\\\'re the story, characters, customizing of characters, strategy, presentation, things of that nature. If you think that admitting that means admitting that JRPGs suck then...well, to be blunt, you\\\'re simply, objectively wrong. Unlike, say, a first-person shooter where the gameplay is inherently engaging, JRPGs NEED those bells and whistles to be good. At the same time, because of their simplistic (and usually team-based) nature, it is also much easier to build an intriguing plot and interesting characters from a JRPG then it is to do so from any other game.
Basically the argument was that while a First Person Shooter can be completely stupid and still become hugely popular because the gameplay is fun, if you take away the plot, characters, music, and strategic thinking from an RPG all you\\\'re left with is crap.
That\\\'s what I believe. I\\\'m sure others will disagree but for my money if you honestly thought Subtlety was a vitriolic anti-JRPG rant then you didn\\\'t understand it. Hell, she even says \\\"these are the games you treasure, the games you look back on with fond memories and love.\\\" That hardly sounds like bashing to me. That actually sounds like the exact opposite of bashing. I strongly disagree with putting that strip on the Dethroning Moment of Suck page, at least for reasons of it being \\\"anti-JRPG.\\\" Of course, this is a YMMV page, so it\\\'s not like it\\\'s my choice.
The bells and whistles are why you play. They\\\'re the story, characters, customizing of characters, strategy, presentation, things of that nature. If you think that admitting that means admitting that JRPGs suck then...well, to be blunt, you\\\'re simply, objectively wrong. Unlike, say, a first-person shooter where the gameplay is inherently engaging, JRPGs NEED those bells and whistles to be good. At the same time, because of their simplistic (and usually team-based) nature, it is also much easier to build an intriguing plot and interesting characters from a JRPG then it is to do so from any other game.
Basically the argument was that while a First Person Shooter can be completely stupid and still become hugely popular because the gameplay is fun, if you take away the plot, characters, music, and strategic thinking from an RPG all you\\\'re left with is crap.
That\\\'s what I believe. I\\\'m sure others will disagree but for my money if you honestly thought Subtlety was a vitriolic anti-JRPG rant then you didn\\\'t understand it. Hell, she even says \\\"these are the games you treasure, the games you look back on with fond memories and love.\\\" That hardly sounds like bashing to me. That actually sounds like the exact opposite of bashing. I strongly disagree with putting that strip on the Dethroning Moment of Suck page, at least for reasons of it being \\\"anti-JRPG.\\\" Of course, this is a YMMV page, so it\\\'s not like it\\\'s my choice.
