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I edited up the beginning part of this article to sound less like anti bullshit and be more neutral. The entire page reads like an attack on erotic content (it explicitly condemned PWP before I edited it out) and judging people for rape fantasy, as well as feminization of bottoms (there was a whole load of femme-phobic bullshit there about \
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I edited up the beginning part of this article to sound less like anti bullshit and be more neutral. The entire page reads like an attack on erotic content (it explicitly condemned PWP before I edited it out) and judging people for rape fantasy, as well as feminization of bottoms (there was a whole load of femme-phobic bullshit there about \\\"schoolgirl with a penis\\\" seriously, it was disgusting). It reads like it was written by people who have never read any BL manga written after 2010, or who haven\\\'t really been in erotic fanfic communities.
I also removed the condemnations of PWP, foeyay, hurtcomfort,and mpreg. There\\\'s absolutely nothing wrong with these tropes, and it\\\'s bullshit that this page is saying you shouldn\\\'t write them.
But the rest of the page is still awful. It just reads like \\\"how dare you have these sexual fantasies, you\\\'re wrong and cancelled.\\\" There\\\'s something to be said about homophobic tropes, but the sort of anti-sex attitude on this page is far more damaging than 90\\\'s BL tropes that have been dying for years.
And most of all, this page isn\\\'t about \\\"how to write a good yaoi,\\\" this page is about \\\"how to appease antis.\\\" It doesn\\\'t say anything about narrative or romance or story. I think the whole thing should be deleted, tbh.
I also removed the condemnations of PWP, foeyay, hurtcomfort,and mpreg. There\\\'s absolutely nothing wrong with these tropes, and it\\\'s bullshit that this page is saying you shouldn\\\'t write them.
But the rest of the page is still awful. It just reads like \\\"how dare you have these sexual fantasies, you\\\'re wrong and cancelled.\\\" There\\\'s something to be said about homophobic tropes, but the sort of anti-sex attitude on this page is far more damaging than 90\\\'s BL tropes that have been dying for years.
And most of all, this page isn\\\'t about \\\"how to write a good yaoi,\\\" this page is about \\\"how to appease antis.\\\" It doesn\\\'t say anything about narrative or romance or story. I think the whole thing should be deleted, tbh.
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I edited up the beginning part of this article to sound less like anti bullshit and be more neutral. The entire page reads like an attack on erotic content (it explicitly condemned PWP before I edited it out) and judging people for rape fantasy, as well as feminization of bottoms (there was a whole load of femme-phobic bullshit there about \
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I edited up the beginning part of this article to sound less like anti bullshit and be more neutral. The entire page reads like an attack on erotic content (it explicitly condemned PWP before I edited it out) and judging people for rape fantasy, as well as feminization of bottoms (there was a whole load of femme-phobic bullshit there about \\\"schoolgirl with a penis\\\" seriously, it was disgusting). It reads like it was written by people who have never read any BL manga written after 2010, or who haven\\\'t really been in erotic fanfic communities.
I also removed the condemnations of PWP, foeyay, hurtcomfort,and mpreg. There\\\'s absolutely nothing wrong with these tropes, and it\\\'s bullshit that this page is saying you shouldn\\\'t write them.
But the rest of the page is still awful. It just reads like \\\"how dare you have these sexual fantasies, you\\\'re wrong and cancelled.\\\" There\\\'s something to be said about homophobic tropes, but the sort of anti-sex attitude on this page is far more damaging than 90\\\'s BL tropes that have been dying for years.
I also removed the condemnations of PWP, foeyay, hurtcomfort,and mpreg. There\\\'s absolutely nothing wrong with these tropes, and it\\\'s bullshit that this page is saying you shouldn\\\'t write them.
But the rest of the page is still awful. It just reads like \\\"how dare you have these sexual fantasies, you\\\'re wrong and cancelled.\\\" There\\\'s something to be said about homophobic tropes, but the sort of anti-sex attitude on this page is far more damaging than 90\\\'s BL tropes that have been dying for years.
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I edited up the beginning part of this article to sound less like anti bullshit and be more neutral. The entire page reads like an attack on erotic content (it explicitly condemned PWP before I edited it out) and judging people for rape fantasy, as well as feminization of bottoms (there was a whole load of femme-phobic bullshit there about \
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I edited up the beginning part of this article to sound less like anti bullshit and be more neutral. The entire page reads like an attack on erotic content (it explicitly condemned PWP before I edited it out) and judging people for rape fantasy, as well as feminization of bottoms (there was a whole load of femme-phobic bullshit there about \\\"schoolgirl with a penis\\\" seriously, it was disgusting). It reads like it was written by people who have never read any BL manga written after 2010, or who haven\\\'t really been in erotic fanfic communities.
But the rest of the page is still awful. It just reads like \\\"how dare you have these sexual fantasies, you\\\'re wrong and cancelled.\\\" There\\\'s something to be said about homophobic tropes, but the sort of anti-sex attitude on this page is far more damaging than 90\\\'s BL tropes that have been dying for years.
But the rest of the page is still awful. It just reads like \\\"how dare you have these sexual fantasies, you\\\'re wrong and cancelled.\\\" There\\\'s something to be said about homophobic tropes, but the sort of anti-sex attitude on this page is far more damaging than 90\\\'s BL tropes that have been dying for years.
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Can we just get rid of this whole page? Does it really belong on TVTropes? TVTropes is supposed to be a descriptive account of media. This is extremely prescriptive and basically just telling people what to write. The page is also dripping icky implications, like you\'re wrong for writing something that\'s purely porn, or that there\'s something wrong with rape fantasy.
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I edited up the beginning part of this article to sound less like anti bullshit and be more neutral. The entire page reads like an attack on erotic content (it explicitly condemned PWP before I edited it out) and judging people for rape fantasy, as well as feminization of bottoms (there was a whole load of femme-phobic bullshit there about \\\"schoolgirl with a penis\\\" seriously, it was disgusting). It reads like it was written by people who have never read any BL manga written after 2010, or who haven\\\'t really been in erotic fanfic communities.
