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We still disagree on Stalin. Stalin was raised Orthodox Christian (though his parents didn't always hold true to God's tenets on parenthood) but rejected the faith when he discovered Marxism in his teenage years. Upon reaching adulthood Stalin was an atheist Marxist and remained so throughout his regime. The Orthodox churches seeking to venerate Stalin as a saint are a minority and the majority condemn this idea. Theories as to how this arose include those few Orthodox churches being grateful to Stalin for the revival that took place, it's not happening and the claim that it is is false or perhaps those churches were [[AnOfferYouCantRefuse
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We still disagree on Stalin. Stalin was raised Orthodox Christian (though his parents didn\'t always hold true to God\'s tenets on parenthood) but rejected the faith when he discovered Marxism in his teenage years. Upon reaching adulthood Stalin was an atheist Marxist and remained so throughout his regime. The Orthodox churches seeking to venerate Stalin as a saint are a minority and the majority condemn this idea. Theories as to how this arose include those few Orthodox churches being grateful to Stalin for the revival that took place, it\'s not happening and the claim that it is is false or perhaps those churches were [[AnOfferYouCantRefuse \"persuaded\"]] to canonize Stalin. Again, the major revival of the Orthodox Church during the end of Stalin\'s era can be summed up with that same trope in regards to Stalin; PragmaticVillainy. This is the same mindset that led to Mussolini, another anti-theistic atheist, cozening up to the Catholic church to exploit its power and influence during his regime and why, as you said, Christopher Hitchens got comfy with those among the Christian Right Wing who supported the Iraq War. All three of these men were anti-theists regardless of their respective co-operation with the church/Christianity.
MAI742 I discussed the matter with Julain and understand his word choice. I did not accuse you of being a Stalinist. I said that I think you have a level of support for him (agreeing with at least some of his ideals) since you did not denounce him; for example, for all I know you may support communism or his views of religion (I\'m not saying you do, I\'m saying you may. The reason for this is because you seem eager to protest or restrain any criticisms of Stalin and raised no protest over support of him). My words inferred a higher level of support than previously stated in this paragraph because you did not denounce Stalin. Furthermore, given Stalin\'s actions, Stalin is demonized worse than he really was in some areas, but he was still awful, dangerous and evil. Stalin is also honored far more than he should be.
MAI742 I discussed the matter with Julain and understand his word choice. I did not accuse you of being a Stalinist. I said that I think you have a level of support for him (agreeing with at least some of his ideals) since you did not denounce him; for example, for all I know you may support communism or his views of religion (I\'m not saying you do, I\'m saying you may. The reason for this is because you seem eager to protest or restrain any criticisms of Stalin and raised no protest over support of him). My words inferred a higher level of support than previously stated in this paragraph because you did not denounce Stalin. Furthermore, given Stalin\'s actions, Stalin is demonized worse than he really was in some areas, but he was still awful, dangerous and evil. Stalin is also honored far more than he should be.
