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DarkHunter Since: Jan, 2001
29th Sep, 2016 07:15:13 PM

The entry looks fine to me. Whether it's a fan term or not is not really relevant, as I think pretty much the entire fanbase calls them "rivals" regardless.

Candi Since: Aug, 2012
29th Sep, 2016 09:27:35 PM

I think a reminder to both about edit wars and discussion pages might be in order, though?

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thatother1dude Since: Jan, 2001
29th Sep, 2016 11:28:35 PM

It's not so much a fan name as it is the only name we have to call them"
No it isn't. According to bulbapedia, the in-game class for these characters from Gen-III is "Pokémon Trainers".

The example's existence is based entirely on those characters being called "rivals" even when that's not what they are. Even if they were called nothing else in-game, if they aren't called rivals, the whole basis on the example falls apart. It would noting that something is not being referred to as what it is not.

Whether it's a fan term or not is not really relevant, as I think pretty much the entire fanbase calls them "rivals" regardless.
Yes it is. Fan Nicknames are still fanon, no matter how popular they are, unless they're actually put in the work itself.

Edited by thatother1dude
Karxrida Since: May, 2012
30th Sep, 2016 12:27:00 AM

Kill the Non-Indicative Name example. They're not called Rivals in the game and many still fulfill that role regardless (Friendly Rival is a thing).

Though it should be said that the "Rival" label is generic enough (while still being an accurate descriptor) that we can still call them that on the wiki even if it's technically a Fan Nickname.

Edited by Karxrida If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
MagBas Since: Jun, 2009
bwburke94 Since: May, 2014
30th Sep, 2016 09:39:15 PM

To clarify: the Gen-III-onward characters are not called "rivals" (within the games), but perform the same narrative role as the characters who do.

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