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burnpsy Since: Sep, 2010
#6401: Jan 4th 2015 at 4:30:55 PM

Doesn't Jennifer know martial arts?

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#6402: Jan 4th 2015 at 4:39:04 PM

No techniques means no martial arts though. Sapphire, because she probably bites and stuff. She's crazy. I think we're supposed to assume Artina and Rozalin don't really have any muscle, right, despite being supernatural?

DoctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
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#6403: Jan 4th 2015 at 4:54:59 PM

Rozalin would win, if she becomes Zenon.

Otherwise, it's hard to tell who is strongest, so I'll go with my favorite. Jennifer it is, then.

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Otherarrow Since: Jul, 2010
#6404: Jan 4th 2015 at 5:13:14 PM

Sapphire's craziness always came off as an informed attribute though, so she'd probably not fair any better than Artina (who has similar expertise and build)

I'd probably say Jennifer. Rozalin has that one trump card, but the chance of it activating is pretty slim, and I can't see her being physically stronger than Jennifer without it (since Jennifer can fight on par with demons despite being humans and is shown to be fit and punchy and all).

edited 4th Jan '15 5:14:23 PM by Otherarrow

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Durazno Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#6405: Jan 4th 2015 at 5:16:39 PM

Sapphire was "crazy" in a way that made her fit into the Netherworld better than her own kingdom, I think. We only ever really saw her in her element, except for brief flashbacks.

Otherarrow Since: Jul, 2010
#6406: Jan 4th 2015 at 7:08:51 PM

In her element just happened to be...less crazy and more princess-y than the demons around her, and these are Disgaea demons who tend to be kinda chill unless purposely playing up their role.

Seriously, the most evidence we get to the "Sapphire is crazy and blood thirsty" is every once in a while she says something overtly violent out of nowhere, but everyone's reaction is less "she's nuts" and more "uh, OK? Moving on..."

Sorry, I never really got it and people insisting on it just confuses me.

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#6407: Jan 4th 2015 at 7:13:44 PM

[up]Doesn't she have a plan to kill everyone she meets?

That qualifies as "crazy" even in Disgaea I would think.

Durazno Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#6408: Jan 4th 2015 at 7:20:19 PM

Oh, and she chases Mao around with a chainsaw when she hears that he needs to open his heart, but, I mean, who WOULDN'T want to take a chainsaw to Mao?

Otherarrow Since: Jul, 2010
#6409: Jan 4th 2015 at 7:30:20 PM

I think she only threatens to chase Mao with a chainsaw, but no one really notices, not even Mao. Then again, it's been a while.

And no, she doesn't have a plan to kill everyone she meets. I don't remember her mentioning that at all (then again, it does seem like most of her threats were just randomly inserted into her dialouge and at most the first line of the next speaker has a token reaction).

I dunno, it doesn't even factor into her character arc at all and it barely comes up. Why is her being supposedly ax crazy even there?

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#6410: Jan 4th 2015 at 7:43:57 PM

Same reason Val loves sardines or whatever. It's a joke. Most Disgaea characters are like that.

Otherarrow Since: Jul, 2010
#6411: Jan 4th 2015 at 7:55:50 PM

Valzy loving sardines is actually explained and has a role in the plot, abit a very minor one. Sapphire's joke is just kinda there, and after a while the writers flat out forget about it.

Also, jokes tend to be funny.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#6412: Jan 4th 2015 at 11:18:13 PM

Sapphire's joke is explained too if you want to take that angle. She's tired of people dying for her, so she decided to keep herself safe it would be best for her to be proactive and take out her enemies first.

Also, just because Disgaea 3 has bad writing and characters doesn't mean we aren't supposed to consider her crazy.

Edit: Speaking of which, having finished Disgaea 4 a few days ago I was surprised to find that I liked basically everyone. I don't think I liked everyone even in the first game. Well, Nemo kind of sucked and I blame him for chapter 9 being a colossal waste of time, but he wasn't really part of the main cast anyway.

edited 4th Jan '15 11:20:06 PM by Arha

Durazno Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#6413: Jan 5th 2015 at 4:56:15 AM

And she does seriously chase Mao off with a chainsaw. It's just... not as striking as it would be, given that it's delivered in still portraits and dialog.

Then she chases after him offering to use a scalpel instead.

edited 5th Jan '15 4:59:02 AM by Durazno

Otherarrow Since: Jul, 2010
#6414: Jan 5th 2015 at 12:24:44 PM

Shrug. It just seems like such a minor part of her character, even with the explanation. Like, no, her not wanting people to die for her is why she learned to fight and is down in the Netherworld hunting demons and trying to kill the Overlord at all, her supposed craziness has nothing to do with that and is often used to just insert random humor into unrelated conversations.

And like I said, it seems like even the writers forgot after a while, in favor of her being "Almaz's tough, proactive but ditzy love interest".

I am overthinking poorly written plot threads, sorry. I'll shut up.

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Durazno Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#6415: Jan 5th 2015 at 12:27:27 PM

If I'm honest, I'm really not fond of "crazy" as a character trait, especially for comedy.

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Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
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#6418: Jan 6th 2015 at 1:30:52 PM

@o@

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#6419: Jan 6th 2015 at 1:35:32 PM

[up]I see Totoro's littlest lackey has grown up.

Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
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#6421: Jan 7th 2015 at 10:55:03 PM

Those battleships weren't even pretending to be not 3D.

That aside, pretty neat overall. And nice to see that Asagi's found a home with the bunny mafia.

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HanabiraKage Since: Oct, 2011
#6422: Jan 8th 2015 at 1:44:34 AM

@Lord: Is it just me, or does that pic of Type-Moon characters look...Carnival Phantasm-inspired? There's catgirl Arcueid with an octopus tentacle, deredere Caster, a bunch of Neko-Arcs...

Zendervai Visiting from the Hoag Galaxy from St. Catharines Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
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#6423: Jan 8th 2015 at 2:55:28 PM

It feels a little bit like they inverted the Guided Fate Paradox opening.

Not Three Laws compliant.
FOFD Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
#6424: Jan 8th 2015 at 4:45:59 PM

Meh. Disgaea 4's Opening is still my favorite.

Akira Toriyama (April 5 1955 - March 1, 2024).
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#6425: Jan 10th 2015 at 6:55:22 PM

Does Asagi have a canonical height?

Using all of this it looks like she's around 160 cm.


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