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3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#6526: Apr 17th 2015 at 7:59:30 AM

Emperor Stronk?

...what a pagetopper

edited 17th Apr '15 7:59:42 AM by 3of4

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#6527: Apr 17th 2015 at 9:12:08 AM

Thanks to y'all sonsabitches, I really want to see Polandball: 40K Edition.

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enderheisenberg Since: Jul, 2011
#6528: Apr 17th 2015 at 9:19:56 AM

Somewhere, the USAS-12 is crying at this sight.

MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#6529: Apr 17th 2015 at 4:12:48 PM

^ That bitch gun sucks in Battlefield 3. They nerfed it to uselessness.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#6530: Apr 17th 2015 at 4:18:14 PM

Only because before it was a handheld IFV cannon with the Frag rounds.

Oh really when?
MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#6531: Apr 17th 2015 at 5:03:11 PM

^ Then they could've just saved their nerfing of the Frag rounds! It sucks using anything now!

And on another note: A Mystery Firearm Has Appeared In Libya.

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#6532: Apr 17th 2015 at 6:17:00 PM

The USAS-12 with frags is still pretty annoying when you are being spawn camped on Operation Metro.

Half-decent SPAS-12 use, however, can annoy Colonel 100 players even with the starting buckshot. Why hasn't the SPAS-15 made an appearance outside the first Bad Company?

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#6533: Apr 17th 2015 at 6:18:42 PM

Because it's ugly

Oh really when?
TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#6534: Apr 17th 2015 at 7:25:55 PM

So is the KS-23. Never enough 23mm Shotgun.

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#6536: Apr 17th 2015 at 10:21:26 PM

Considering it predates the Saiga which didn't come out until 90's no it isn't. Most western Automatic Shotguns predate the Saiga by at least a decade. That includes the AA-12 1972 for the first version and the USAS-12 early 1980's. That isn't counting the several developmental designs either. Even in terms of semi-automatic shotguns the first successful design was from the late 19th century US. Give you one guess who designed that one.

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TamH70 Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#6537: Apr 18th 2015 at 4:48:35 AM

John Moses Browning. Next. [lol]

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#6538: Apr 18th 2015 at 6:30:24 AM

That one was a bit easy :P

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#6540: Apr 18th 2015 at 7:05:59 AM

Bet you money that plastic bit they insist on keeping is causing something to shift when it starts to get hot and deforms.

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MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#6541: Apr 18th 2015 at 7:12:48 AM

^ From the sounds of the report, it looks like the whole system is riddled with flaws. Especially the receiver on account of using cheap lower quality plastics than necessary.

That single bit you're referring to is probably one symptom of a large number of problems with it.

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#6542: Apr 18th 2015 at 7:28:31 AM

There was a particular part that is surprisingly low grade plastic that is in direct contact with and supporting the barrel. The problem is of course it is around part of the barrel that gets the hottest ie near the chamber. They start firing and it melts or warps and causes the barrel to move out of alignment.

It is either cutting too many corners to cut weight or they have some serious material quality control issues they haven't addressed maybe even both. There are high strength and very heat resistant plastics but why the hell they didn't use them in the parts of the weapon prone to high levels of heat is beyond me.

They use metal parts in the 416 and 417 so why they felt the need to cut corners with the G-36 is beyond me.

edited 18th Apr '15 7:29:22 AM by TuefelHundenIV

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#6543: Apr 18th 2015 at 7:37:03 AM

[up]German soldiers are not expected to fire their weapons?

So I guess Mattel is going to make a few recalls for their product.

Also one of the things I like about the Tavor, the trigger group is all steel.

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#6544: Apr 18th 2015 at 8:48:27 AM

[up][up]Considered that the 416 and 417 were developed after the G36, there may have been a chance that they knew that there was such a flaw but decided that it was "too late" since the Bundeswehr had already received its order and decided to wish real hard that they wouldn't notice.

I mean, there are allegations in the article that H&K forged Bundeswehr acceptance marks on the rifles.

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#6545: Apr 18th 2015 at 8:53:50 AM

I believe it. If it gets real bad can't they go back to the G3?

Why can't we just have 5.56 versions of the G3 for them anyway? And the English could have their FAL back in 5.56 too. Everyone would be happy.

Oh really when?
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#6546: Apr 18th 2015 at 9:06:48 AM

There is one. The HK-33. It was pretty much built off of the G-3 design and chambered for 5.56mm.

It has an immediate successor the HK-41 that was meant to be more compatible with NATO rifle accessories.

edited 18th Apr '15 9:13:06 AM by TuefelHundenIV

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enderheisenberg Since: Jul, 2011
#6547: Apr 18th 2015 at 11:30:34 AM

Apparently, the HK 33 is too heavy for a 5.56 rifle, while the G41 is twice as expensive as the HK 33. Should have settled with FNC, maybe.

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#6548: Apr 18th 2015 at 11:54:16 AM

I am not surprised by the 33's weight. It is a somewhat modified clone of the G-3. It should be at least robust and reasonable to handle in full auto.

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#6549: Apr 18th 2015 at 2:24:58 PM

Kind of interesting shooting test with 9mm. Pretty decent performance at range especially out of the Kel-Tec Pistol Carbine. Not a really definitive test of max penetration without dense enough gel to test total penetration depths at those ranges. I would like to see more tests on full on full torso proxies ie the ones with simulated organs and bones.

edited 18th Apr '15 2:29:49 PM by TuefelHundenIV

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MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#6550: Apr 18th 2015 at 5:34:26 PM

Why can't we just have 5.56 versions of the G3 for them anyway? And the English could have their FAL back in 5.56 too. Everyone would be happy.

Does that mean we would get modernized M-14s in 5.56mm? Kinda like the EBR only lighter caliber?


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