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TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#128226: Aug 15th 2015 at 7:11:20 AM

Thanks to a picture of Clownpiece, I realized that after a game with really no silly hats, this game really made up for it.

Another thing to note that Junko has no title of sort. One post in danbooru sort of allures this how Junko really is manifestation of pure grudge. She has becomes less of a character and more of an avatar of sort. It almost borders to Generic Doomsday Villain if you really think about it, but she probably isn't that close of being one.

edited 15th Aug '15 7:15:56 AM by TPPR10

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#128227: Aug 15th 2015 at 7:16:37 AM

Why would Yukari need to intervene in ULiL? The problem got more or less solved by Kasen and Reimu. And as for LoLK, Eirin was on top of that one and I really doubt she'd appreciate Yukari butting in.

Also Yukari hates the Lunarians and probably wouldn't lift a finger to help them.

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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#128228: Aug 15th 2015 at 7:23:27 AM

Thanks to a picture of Clownpiece, I realized that after a game with really no silly hats, this game really made up for it.

I don't know if you just forgot about Shinmyoumaru's soup bowl or if that's just a testament to how damn well she wears it.

She has becomes less of a character and more of an avatar of sort. It almost borders to Generic Doomsday Villain if you really think about it, but she probably isn't that close of being one.
There's a subtle but huge difference between a Generic Doomsday Villain and a character who exists as a sort of very embodiment of evil. Though I guess it's a matter of how you look at it. I thought the final boss of Final Fantasy IX was great, for instance, but I seem to be pretty alone in that. (Granted, I didn't get it at first and then started liking it several years later when I really thought about it.)

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#128229: Aug 15th 2015 at 7:26:55 AM

Junko's profile says she purified herself of any identifying information.

MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#128230: Aug 15th 2015 at 7:37:52 AM

OH! Helloooooooooo Yukari, self-proclaimed Grand Mistress and Protector of Gensokyo MY ASS, HOW NICE of you to casually appear after TWO GAMES of people randomly tearing open the FREAKIN' HAKUREI BARRIER, waltzing in and out of Gensokyo like it's a shopping mall, Lunarians invading and trying to exterminate everything, HOW LUCKY WE ARE TO HAVE YOU, YUKARI, don't even wanna imagine how we would have survived without you and your ETERNAL VIGILANCE O_O just bugs mejust bugs mejust bugs me

I mean seriously you guys

Seriously

I wonder if the recent stuff in the last couple games has been a giant case of Just as Planned for her?

FellDeedsAwake Since: Mar, 2010
#128231: Aug 15th 2015 at 7:41:12 AM

I realized that after a game with really no silly hats, this game really made up for it.

YES! That was even one of my first comments after the demo came out: Ringo's sweet cap plus Doremy's nightcap ALREADY had topped the amount of silly hats in ALL of DDC (which, if you count DDMC Hammer's soup bowl as a "hat", is 1; the total amount of hats in all of DDC was 2! O_O) Thankfully, LOLKAT delivered and added a sweet jester's cap, Junko's very dignified, pretty hat, and the monstrosity that is My-Immortal-chan's.

Also: just watching Special Stage for the first time. At least two of the Boss's Spellcards are really awesome and memorable: the Triple-I-Wanna-Be-The-Guy-Moon-Attack, and the Ultra-Triangle-Barrage-of-Doom-Survival-one.

Servbot Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
#128232: Aug 15th 2015 at 7:43:46 AM

Well, the comparison wasn't quite as direct as I made it. The idea was that Gensokyo can survive change. Marisa took this in a very ominous way though. Like, "it wouldn't matter no matter what the result is. " Or something, I dunno.

Could it be ominous in the terms of "Gensokyo will spring back from what the Lunarians are currently doing (even if several of its current inhabitants won't)"? Kinda like what scientists say in regards to the earth and humans.

After all, the Three Fairies manga shows that all it takes for something to regain life is for fairies to live in them, and since Gensokyo is absolutely littered with fairies living in random places (with Yukari also ensuring that the more important landmarks are being inhabited by fairies) and LoLK has shown that even Lunarians have difficulty putting the immortal fairies down permanently, the purified parts of Gensokyo probably won't stay purified for long.

So in conclusion... Cirno > Moonsisters > Protagonists, proving that she really is the strongest. tongue

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#128233: Aug 15th 2015 at 7:51:42 AM

That's like saying rock is the strongest because it crushes scissors which cuts paper.

edited 15th Aug '15 7:51:59 AM by asterism

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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#128235: Aug 15th 2015 at 8:18:22 AM

So in conclusion... Cirno > Moonsisters > Protagonists, proving that she really is the strongest. tongue

Finally! Someone with sense!

FellDeedsAwake Since: Mar, 2010
#128236: Aug 15th 2015 at 8:35:53 AM

Hang on, speaking of Fairies! surprised What happened with Clown Girl and her Insane Fairy Posse after the events of the game? Where did they go? Back to Hell, I presume? That would be a shame... because I want her to move into Gensokyo grin She'd fit in super well.

Plus! I just realized to my horror that most of the new chars in this game won't be around/available in Gensokyo for any future appearances, be it canon or fanon sadsad Only the two Mossad Rabbits, I think, express an interest in remaining in Gensokyo?

Man, I think Sumi was sad in terms of not having a new char around as a new Gensokyo denizen sad This game has 5 more sad

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#128237: Aug 15th 2015 at 8:41:23 AM

... Mossad?

edited 15th Aug '15 8:41:45 AM by Fawriel

Caprice Since: Jun, 2010
#128238: Aug 15th 2015 at 8:46:14 AM

Wherever I look, I see people reeling from the revelation of Clownpiece, and then embracing her with extreme enthusiasm. As a fairy she embodies the natural principle of being so ridiculous it loops back around to awesome.

In gameplay, of course, she's a bag of dicks, but my one Touhou-playing buddy and I have conferred and decided we still hate Doremy more. Clownpiece is creative and entertaining about smashing your face in.

Meanwhile, Sagume claims the long-coveted title of The Only Lunarian People Actually Like.

FellDeedsAwake Since: Mar, 2010
#128239: Aug 15th 2015 at 8:58:07 AM

... Mossad?

Sorry, was it offensive? sad Wasn't meant that way! Just as in "Elite Strike Force" kind of way. Could also have called them Green Beret Bunnies.

Meanwhile, Sagume claims the long-coveted title of The Only Lunarian People Actually Like.

Hmmmmm. Not so sure about that? Reisen and Eirin are Lunarians, too... but if you mean "Lunarians who are still on the Moon", then probably yes.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#128240: Aug 15th 2015 at 9:29:45 AM

People don't like FuSoYa?

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#128241: Aug 15th 2015 at 9:34:37 AM

Observation made while watching the Extra stage: Hecatia and Junko make a good team, since the latter's spellcard names might as well be Fallout Boy song titles.

"Pure Danmaku for the Purpose of Hunting Down a Trapped Mouse" by Miss Hellraiser.

[up][up] Actually I just didn't know what that means. Which I'm feeling a little silly about now. ^^;

FellDeedsAwake Since: Mar, 2010
#128242: Aug 15th 2015 at 10:10:14 AM

Just watchin' all Blind Runs of the game so far, as usual for me. Gotta say, it's way more depressing than usual, since all the expert players get really angry at so many Spell Cards and the inconsistent difficulty and stuff sad They all begin to talk to ZUN like a mad, disappointed father to a misbehavin' kid and gets quite uncomfortable.

The first reactions to seeing Clown Girl are worth it, however evil grin Just watched a German girl see her for the first time: "WAS THAT PIPPI LONGSTOCKING!?!?" evil grin

Prime32 Since: Jan, 2001
#128243: Aug 15th 2015 at 10:30:22 AM

OH! Helloooooooooo Yukari, self-proclaimed Grand Mistress and Protector of Gensokyo MY ASS, HOW NICE of you to casually appear after TWO GAMES of people randomly tearing open the FREAKIN' HAKUREI BARRIER, waltzing in and out of Gensokyo like it's a shopping mall, Lunarians invading and trying to exterminate everything, HOW LUCKY WE ARE TO HAVE YOU, YUKARI, don't even wanna imagine how we would have survived without you and your ETERNAL VIGILANCE O_O just bugs mejust bugs mejust bugs me

I mean seriously you guys

Seriously

Best way to resolve this: Have the first issue of Strange Creators of Outer World include a foreword by the editor, "Y.Y.", who notes that it's taken up a lot of her time lately.

Plus! I just realized to my horror that most of the new chars in this game won't be around/available in Gensokyo for any future appearances, be it canon or fanon sadsad Only the two Green Beret Bunnies, I think, express an interest in remaining in Gensokyo?
I sort of assumed that ZUN was trying to create a Lunarian Cast Herd so that he could actually use the Watatsukis in another story without having to introduce a bunch of new characters at once.

edited 15th Aug '15 10:30:46 AM by Prime32

TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#128244: Aug 15th 2015 at 10:40:29 AM

Cirno claiming dominance

Probably will post more tumblr posts.

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
EonLeader from London Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#128245: Aug 15th 2015 at 10:46:05 AM

all the expert players get really angry at so many Spell Cards and the inconsistent difficulty and stuff

I too saw how angry Jaimers was at it.

Me though, I think it's great. I like the new characters, especially Sagume. Everybody likes her it seems. I can't comment on the music or difficulty too much yet, but even the playable roster made this a great game from the start.

Definitely the best since UFO, when ZUN was last at the top of his game.

Servbot Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#128247: Aug 15th 2015 at 12:02:12 PM

Beginning HERE, NEW TROLLOSUKE MANGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In which we find out Waggysaggy is a pervert and Hatate's hair is very flammable.

SuperVehicle-001 Since: May, 2015
#128248: Aug 15th 2015 at 12:35:30 PM

I've asked this over at Mot K and nobody answered, so I decided to try again here. Gonna cover my question in spoilers just to be safe.

Do any of the endings tell what became of Junko after the events of the game? I'm assuming Seiran, Ringo and Sagome went back to the Moon, Doremy stayed in the Dream World and Clownpiece and Hecatia returned to Hell, but I doubt Junko would be welcome in any of those places. Is she in Gensokyo? She already proved that she has no problem being around impurity and I can't see her being anywhere else.

Leylicite Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: Not war
#128249: Aug 15th 2015 at 1:15:21 PM

To distract from the Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom discussion a bit (or maybe not):

Jaimers recently retweeted this tweet. It's obviously a hitbox comparison, but I don't know what of. The bottom row might be comparing the infamous Metal Fatigue bullets to other bullets of the same size?

https://twitter.com/Inatsuka/status/632189492913242113

FellDeedsAwake Since: Mar, 2010
#128250: Aug 15th 2015 at 1:21:58 PM

[up][up]That does actually tie into my big issue, with so few chars goin' to Gensokyo and whatnot. smile

I'm assuming Seiran, Ringo and Sagome went back to the Moon

Actually, the two Rabbits (or only one? Memory is hazy) get persuaded to come stay in Gensokyo instead, which makes me super happy grin. Maybe it's not in all routes? I think it was on Reisen's, which for me, is the only canonical route waii, due to character development reasons. Whether that gets picked up by later canon sources, is, of course, the big question (PLEASE give us, like, Ringo in FS, that would rule soooo much!)

As to any of the other characters, I can't say if it gets answered in any of the endings... but sadly, my gut feeling is "none of them stay in Gensokyo" sad. But the Final Boss, as you mentioned, would at least have good motivation for it. Or.... hmm, she actually might just stay on the Moon, where she always was? To forever continue her campaign of revenge? Sad to think about, but, hey, would be in character.

edited 15th Aug '15 1:22:11 PM by FellDeedsAwake


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