Erfworld

It's what he's doing that was called obscene.

@Silasw: Good catch! I didn't notice that until you pointed it out, but it's definitely the same outfit.

edited 22nd Aug '15 1:48:01 PM by Shinziril

I admit that I didn't notice it myself, folks on the Erfworld IRC chat noticed it and I just thought it was worthy of mentioning.

Then it probably means something that the last time she wore that outfit, she decided it wasn't the one to fight Fate in.

Anyway, Arkenpliers or not, this doesn't seem like a confrontation they should try for. Wanda's Arkentool isn't specialised to their current environment the way Charlie's is - Wanda and Maggie ought to still be at a distinct disadvantage here.

I wish we'd gotten more information on how Jillian recovered from Charlie's mind-wipe though. I was always rather unsatisfied with the way Inner Peace ended...

Edit: Come to think of it, have we ever had evidence about whether captured units can be disbanded by their original side? In some ways the best thing for Parson to do right now might be just to disband Lilith. It's not exactly nice, but not much worse than sending soldiers to their deaths...

edited 27th Aug '15 11:25:28 AM by ashnazg

Fighting from the inside.

Wanda don't like her peeps being stolen.

edited 28th Aug '15 9:11:25 PM by Fighteer

The signamancy. Wow.

Also it took me a moment to notice that effect actually said Recrypt.

A devil with an angel on her shoulder. I like it. Charlie's deadpan "Oh, that's not good" reaction is also hilarious. And WOW is Wanda pissed off.

I find it interesting that, despite what Lilith was thinking earlier, Charlie was, in fact, trying to bring her back into his alignment.

So, seems like there are new issues. It's a pity, considering the comic was in a pretty nice groove right now both in quality and in reliability of updates. I have to say I'm not sad about it, though, as long as the transition period is not too bad.

At least Rob had it on his radar, so it won't be like that agonizing period a couple of years back when the book 2 updates dripped in.

I never had anything against David, but it's hard to compete with Xin or Jamie.

There is some possibility that Xin might be returning.

And shit be about to happen for realz.

Huh. I don't expect this to work, but it's interesting that they can even try.

The archon will probably get croaked in short order, but getting a glimpse of Charley's physical condition is an interesting bit of information to learn.

(wish I knew how to quote in these forums ) The way everyone is spaced in the room, she's pointing her raygun finger at one of the inner circle Archons and not Charley, so it's incredibly unlikely she manages to pivot, shoot, and croak him in the one swift attack necessary to croak him and not cost GK the obscene ammounts of money an attack would cost them.

Plus if you want to be all prophecy-ish, isn't the "Charlie dies to a Perfect Warlord" prophecy going to protect him a-la Witch King of Angmar? Or am I misremembering?

The smartest play, as I see it, would now be to compel the touched archon to flee the room and make contact with other archons. I expect thinkamancy can do that. Then Charlie will never know which if any (or none) of his archons are infected with The Virus.

^^ Well, I don't think Parson has to kill him personally or anything, but I'm pretty sure Jill factors into Charlie's death somehow. He really really did not want her to die. It's possibly that he can't die before her.

How did they release the arm restraint?

By cutting the magical tether that indicated she was a prisoner. The restraints pop naturally when a unit is captured, and disappear once they're freed. It just usually doesn't happen in the middle of an enemy city.

I was thinking along those lines too, there's probably a Prediction involved. Say, perhaps, that Charlie will be the one to kill Jillian, implying that he can't die before she does...though admittedly if Predictions can't be thwarted, then he wouldn't need to take any actions to prevent others killing her either.

If he's indeed trying to game a prophecy, it's a neat parallel to how his daughter acted. Though in her case she failed...

So what we see depicted is a visual representation of the underlying fabric of the game itself, as opposed to some sort of illusion generated in the minds of the participants by thinkamancy.

Well, it's hard to say. We're into hard-core physics. I doubt any of what's going on right now even has a "real" way of being viewed, so all of it is illusion. Just like in the real world, half of a physicist's job is "I have a complicated set of equations that describe how the universe works, now I need to come up with some metaphor about a ball and a rubber sheet so that somebody can actually understand what I've discovered without twenty years of research."

Yeah this is all still metaphor, really. Wanda is not a devil, she was motivated by compassion to come help someone. Lilian's mind is not literally a castle. This is just a way for the characters to understand what's going on and is no more strictly 100% literal than that Charlie is a swarm of bugs inside Jill's brain.

Some things may be more literal than the others though. Dateamancers such as Grand Abbie are all about "connections", while Thinkamancers go on about strings, which we see here represent those connections.

The castle and the crows are deliberate constructs by the Archon and Charlie respectively, as are angel and devil outfits, and the doors before that. But the strings may be closer to raw Erfworld laws.

edited 6th Sep '15 2:24:48 AM by Adannor

Not only did the restraints unlock, but her clothes re-popped. Rather dramatic. No wonder the other Archons look surprised/worried/confused.

It's interesting that whenever Charlie isn't interested in negotiating, he seems to default to forms that are stereotypically "evil"/"creepy". (Even when he's negotiating, he often uses non-Erfworld villain characters.) I suppose that's intended to suggest that he's fundamentally a bad person, but it feels rather heavy-handed.