Cold Open? ok, I get the concept, but I wanna know: Who named that? Whoever it was, they need to be punched. Seriously? Cold Open? That's suppose to make sense?
/gripe
Sorry, you can go back to the thread topic now.
edited 29th Nov '10 7:26:02 AM by DRCEQ
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A Cold Open is when a show opens up already in the middle of something. Its a preexisting term.
This trope is if it starts up in the middle of a Danger Room or Holodeck sequence which is a type of training... I am asking that it be expanded to include "training squences" that make it seem something its not like above DS 9 example.
edited 29th Nov '10 7:52:29 AM by Raso
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I see the Awesomeness.
It's better than the original name, which iirc, was something like Professor X Likes To See Teenagers Sweat.
Fight smart, not fair.
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That might be the worst title in TV Tropes history.
I see the Awesomeness.
Hence the change.
It's still a redirect: Professor X Likes Watching Teenagers Sweat
edited 30th Nov '10 12:37:45 AM by Deboss
Fight smart, not fair.
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Still there is a trope here just I think it could be expanded a bit by getting rid of the "Danger Room" requirement and making it any Training Simulation Cold Open or just a Misleading Cold Open.
edited 30th Nov '10 2:24:39 AM by Raso
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I see the Awesomeness.
I agree on the combat simulation part.
Fight smart, not fair.
A Cold Open is when a show opens up already in the middle of something. Its a preexisting term. I know it's a pre-existing term... There'd be no other reason why we'd use it otherwise. I still want to punch whoever coined such a grammatically awkward term.
i thought the trope already covers Simulated Cold Open...? so long as the simulation serves to have team members show off their abilities, that is. from the description, "Usually depicted in a training room situation" (emphasis mine) and then "The simulated nature of the battle is revealed" tells me it's meant to be a Kobayashi Maru where the simulation doesn't necessarily go horribly wrong.
the term "danger room" is there because X-Men is the Trope Namer, not because it has to happen in a specific kind of room. the description could use some tweaking to make things clearer, but i don't think it needs a rename.
Since this trope sounds more like a Danger Room Cold Open where the tester fails, another title could be If This Had Been An Actual Emergency, a phrase that's more universal among such examples.
edited 4th Apr '11 6:37:12 PM by DarkNemesis
I agree with the alt name, though Simulated Cold Open works just fine for me. That way, it's known that this trope covers any instance of a simulation whether real or virtual, and whether or not they ultimately fail. Also, I've never personally seen a variation of this using baseball/sports strictly as an opening, so that line should be axed. The only instance I can think of is once in [[X-Men Evolution]] and I don't think that was an opening.
edited 14th May '11 11:25:30 PM by SorenTheBranded
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That's more of a Star Trek thing.
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Training Simulation Cold Open sounds fine to me. Or just Simulation Cold Open.
Although, I should add: Pre-existing term or not, we seem to have renamed Cold Open to The Teaser. We also renamed Bond Cold Open to Action Prologue. I support that, since Cold Open is exactly wrong (it's a "hot open", isn't it? It starts with the scene already 'hot'.)
It seems awkward for us to have tropes with Cold Open in their name when we don't have Cold Open itself as a trope. So Training Simulation Teaser seems like a better name for this trope; we might also want to look at the other Cold Open trope, Batman Cold Open.
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Despite not thinking The Teaser is a good name, I'm in favour of renaming all of the cold opens.
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
I think the idea is that the audience hasn't been "warmed up" yet with the opening. That said, if we're killing "cold open" in trope titles, might as well be consistent.
Cold Open is a pre-existing term, very distinct from The Teaser. When did that get renamed?
edited 14th Oct '11 5:55:15 PM by Discar
Well, it's not on Renamed Tropes.
Yeah, unwritten rule number one: follow all the unwritten procedures. - Camacan
Wait, on second thought — was it ever actually named Cold Open? I believe we started with Batman Cold Open and things exploded from there. Looking at https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Main.ColdOpen
I don't see any edits.
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According to Wikipedia, "teaser" is simply another term for "cold open". Both are established terms, as easily confirmed by googling them.
That said, I have no strong preference for either one, but I do strongly prefer that we're consistent in this. So I think we should either rename The Teaser to Cold Open, or we should rename half a dozen of cold open tropes to teaser tropes.
Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!
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That's misleading. Teaser is another name for a number of terms, which have nothing to do with cold open. Teaser can mean trailer, preview, cold open, or even an advertising technique.
Teaser is a rectangle, cold open is a square.
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
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Just speaking for myself here, Cold Open has a very strong, specific connotation for me that is different from The Teaser.
The biggest difference is that a teaser can appear at the end of an episode, hinting at what's to come.
A cold open can only be at the beginning, at it doesn't have to hint at anything to come—it's just a variant of In Medias Res.
edited 20th Oct '11 5:38:10 PM by ArtemisStrong
Get a slant at this glossary of Pulp Detective terms. It rates. Pipe that?
Crown Description:
The objection to Danger Room is that it implies the trope only alludes to a holodeck-style simulation. This is a Crowner regarding whether this trope needs a rename for this specific reason.
Expand Danger Room Cold Open to include all Simulated Cold Open situations.
Like DS 9's Opening for Season 4 where they simulate a changling invader in the station and attemt to capture him, but it is not an example because its not done in a room like a Holodeck but its still a test and the audience doesn't know till after the fact.
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