SCP Foundation

Err, wait a minute, they have an SCP which is essentially a parallel Earth Antarctic kingdom. They've got a full diplomatic and scientific liaison going over there, and the kingdom has its own version of the Foundation.

I just read that SCP and yes that is what I expected things to be like.

However the Foundation is still kept secret in this world. The last thing my protagonists need is every Big Bad in their world attempting to invade Baseline by tearing their own rift in space time(which is undesirable even under other circumstances).

edited 27th Jan '14 4:06:15 PM by Worlder

Isn't that the same place that ended up getting wiped out by some weird trans-dimensional disease from the Foundation's universe?

Which then declared war on the alternate reality, and tried to destroy it?

Regardless, this is a matter of the "there is no canon" thing, but in the current uber- Grimdark popular version of the foundation canon, cold non-interference is basically the best case scenario for what the Foundation would do to a parallel universe.

edited 27th Jan '14 4:03:08 PM by Archereon

http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-1483

Apparently relations are stable when inferring from Addendum 03.

edited 27th Jan '14 4:14:49 PM by Worlder

I'm genuinely surprised that was allowed to endure without mentioning the foundation has a plan to Nuke 'em just in case, or an implication that the other world is planning an invasion.

Not everything has to be killdestroyhorrible, dude. You want grimdark? Go and read 093 or something.

In the books of some people, the Foundation is a hell of a lot more reasonable when dealing with outside entities. This is as it should be.

Ok what if my world is on the verge of being annihilated by two Galactus-level entities?

Yes, I know about the Able-limit and I would likely write in about how the Foundation just flat out refuses to provide assistance in dealing with a crisis of such magnitude.

Close the rift so to prevent the destruction of two worlds? Yes, I know Warcraft did that first. Should I just write it so that physical travel is offline but telecommunications is still possible?

Bear in mind, the Foundation isn't supposed to be actually evil. They're supposed to take Well-Intentioned Extremist way too far. They lock up harmless weird things "just in case" but they won't drop a nuke on a town because some guy who lives in the middle can make pottery with his mind. They'll lock him up, but leave the town alone.

Well, they will mind wipe everyone in the town, and probably put his family and everyone he's every met through hell to make sure nobody else has that ability and to ensure nobody remembers he ever existed, and he'll basically be locked up in a room for the rest of his life or until the foundation decides to vivisect him...

Back to the topic of the Foundation's relation with your universe, make sure it's pretty clear that they have a backup plan that, at the very least, involves potentially killing all life on the alternate Earth with memetic kill agents or bioweapons just in case relations deteriorate or they want to use MAD diplomacy.

edited 28th Jan '14 6:24:34 AM by Archereon

The thing is that my Earth already has a dozen ways to self-destruct. The Foundation should be more worried about the crisis potentially spreading to Baseline.

What's the Foundation's advice on hiding the key to a vault for dangerous artifacts?

Oh don't worry about the vault. It isn't on Earth, or the "normal" plane of reality for that matter.

Unless it has any other weird memetic/teleporting properties, lock it in a box, keep it under (heavy) guard when its not being studied.

That's not really even SCP, given that it stands for "Special Containment Procedures" (granted, it would be contained in the foundation universe given that its a threat to normalcy, but unless there's something more dangerous about it, locked up under guard is really the best thing for it.)

edited 29th Jan '14 5:31:43 AM by Archereon

Archeron: Before someone grimderped it up, the Never-Hungry Man was allowed to leave Foundation custody, albeit with a handful of confidentiality rules. This is the version I prefer, since the new version is just your standard man-eating mutant tapeworms. The old version made it clear that if a human SCP was proven thoroughly harmless enough, they could live relatively normal lives.

The original idea was that there was going to be some sort of an SCP Series based off the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse; the Never-hungry Man was Famine's antithesis. They would have destroyed each other on contact. Unfortunately, the guy who wrote it never got around to finishing it.

Are there any SC Ps whose procedures are "focused outwards"?

The item or person might be safe and non-hostile but there are forces at play actively seeking to get at that item or person for some presumably devious plot. As such the procedures have a much greater emphasis on keeping things out.

edited 3rd Feb '14 4:33:19 PM by Worlder

There's a few Groups of Interest that do that. Or I'm misunderstanding what you're asking.

I'm asking are there any SC Ps where containment procedure anticipates some sort of external hostile assault to steal or destroy the SCP?

Probably at least one, though I obviously haven't read every single one, and as such can't think of one off hand.

Is this the wrong place to ask how a character like the Doctor would react to the foundation? I mean on one hand he probably admires the efficient way they handle dangerous beings like SCP-682. But what about the safe and sentient ones, how would he react to their containment?

Considering they'd lock him up and vivisect him before he'd have the time to say "Do you want a jelly baby ?", I think he'd better avoid them at all costs.

While i agree the Doctor himself could be an SCP and most of his tools probably count too. I'm pretty sure he is to clever to just be immediately captured and locked up.

Oh that reminds me I should probably come forward about the overall nature of my world (the one that made contact with the Foundation).

My world is pretty much a superhero universe. It is a Fantasy Kitchen Sink like that of DC and Marvel (minus the costumes). Thus, this Earth is fraught with threats within, without, and beyond.

One possibility I would abhor is the idea that the Foundation would attempt to kidnap civilian superhumans for dissection. Such an act would criminalized the entire Foundation in the eyes of my protagonists.

Unless your guys originated in the Earth that is the Foundation world, why would they try to contain it? Is there a bleed effect? Your guys spilling into the Foundation!Earh?

The Earth in my story is target for invasions and incursions by multiple hostile parties.

Any force capable of conquering Earth is likely to use Earth as a staging point for further campaigns against other worlds connected to Earth.