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CybranGeneralSturm Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#18576: Jun 24th 2017 at 1:55:31 PM

@ Hamburger: Are you planning to do the Dera-Deka sidequest on your Kingmaker run? It's only on the Septentrion Arc and is the only way to unlock Jikoku.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#18577: Jun 24th 2017 at 1:56:40 PM

Wasn't even aware that existed. What's its deal?

CybranGeneralSturm Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#18578: Jun 24th 2017 at 2:10:31 PM

[up] It's about Airi's father, who disappeared at some point before the invasion.

edited 24th Jun '17 2:38:38 PM by CybranGeneralSturm

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
CybranGeneralSturm Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#18580: Jun 24th 2017 at 2:38:29 PM

The Dera-Deka sidequest can be started on Day 3 after you arrive in Nagoya. I forget exactly when, but it becomes available at some point after arriving. You have to go through multiple events and the sidequest closes on Day 6.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#18581: Jun 24th 2017 at 3:13:28 PM

I should also note that he's also Ronaldo's sempai, and the reason he hates Yamato so much (he believes the former killed Dera Deka).

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asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#18582: Jun 24th 2017 at 3:17:31 PM

I like that touch. Adds a nice extra to Airi siding with Ronaldo.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#18583: Jun 24th 2017 at 3:18:04 PM

So I'm nearly at the end of day 4, halfway through the game, and both me and the enemies are only in the low 30s, level-wise. That's odd.

Tarsen Since: Dec, 2009
#18584: Jun 24th 2017 at 3:22:04 PM

iirc in the first game, end-game is about 60-ish until new game plus, and i imagine its the same in 2.

there'll be an upturn in leveling speed after a certain point. not by much, but it'll get you to the late 50s at least by the penultimate boss maybe.

ComicX6 Since: Jan, 2010
#18585: Jun 24th 2017 at 3:34:10 PM

Mid-60s is about where you should be come endgame.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#18586: Jun 24th 2017 at 3:39:06 PM

The demons go up to the 80s, though, plus the two strongest, Lucifer and Satan, at 99.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#18587: Jun 24th 2017 at 3:41:49 PM

Bonus Boss and some spotpass demons go from 80s to 90s too. Satan and or Lucy require them too I believe. Bonus Boss ones.

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CybranGeneralSturm Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#18588: Jun 24th 2017 at 3:42:17 PM

You can get rid of the EXP penalty for defeating lower-level teams as a perk for New Game Plus.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#18589: Jun 24th 2017 at 3:47:33 PM

I take it you're expected to import strong demons to NG+, too, I'm not sure how you'd take down the level 80+ Nebiros on day three otherwise.

Tarsen Since: Dec, 2009
#18590: Jun 24th 2017 at 3:56:16 PM

iirc the system lets you import 1 or 2 demons to new game plus for a cost of the points you gained from the acheivements in the playthrough.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#18591: Jun 24th 2017 at 4:04:13 PM

Nebiros is good for level grinding too.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
ComicX6 Since: Jan, 2010
#18592: Jun 24th 2017 at 4:10:18 PM

Heh, you actually can beat Nebiros at a relatively low level. Equip someone (preferably the Hero) with Null Curse, Null Force, and Ban Physical and he won't be able to touch you at all. Plus the demons accompanying are mostly stuff with low base stats and shared weaknesses, like Legion and Loa.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#18593: Jun 24th 2017 at 8:09:56 PM

So given the significance of those two letters to the story and the fact it'll include Doi designs, I wonder if we'll be seeing Maitreya making an appearance in SJR?

CybranGeneralSturm Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#18594: Jun 24th 2017 at 8:11:06 PM

No idea. Heck, he might even be just a password-exclusive demon like Alciel/Aciel.

[down]Interesting.

edited 24th Jun '17 8:20:06 PM by CybranGeneralSturm

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#18595: Jun 24th 2017 at 8:14:43 PM

[up] It was recently discovered that the (very obscure) figure's actual name is Arsiel if you can believe that.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#18596: Jun 25th 2017 at 4:51:02 PM

I'd kinda like the Septentriones to be playable demons in a mainline game. Accident-exclusives, maybe.

CybranGeneralSturm Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#18597: Jun 25th 2017 at 5:04:21 PM

[up] So would Alcor be a special fusion involving four of them then? A core rule of special fusion is that you need to have one of the components before it becomes available.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#18598: Jun 25th 2017 at 5:07:27 PM

I haven't gotten to Alcor yet though I know he's the Anguished One; why would he require a Special Fusion?

CybranGeneralSturm Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#18599: Jun 25th 2017 at 5:09:19 PM

[up] It's because he is Mizar's twin.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#18600: Jun 25th 2017 at 6:48:45 PM

Megrez is... hard. Any advice?


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