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Mizerous Takat Empress from Outworld Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#17827: Mar 26th 2017 at 5:04:08 PM

I mean, unless he's more evil in SMTIVA, he's kinda sorta maybe becoming a good guy. He's a lot less hostile towards Flynn (though I admit, I'm still not done Vanilla IV yet so I could be wrong).
The demons of this series can have pretty wildly varying personalities, don't forget. The Lucifer of IV isn't nearly as smooth or personable as his usual depiction, and Belphagor can't decide if he's a serious threat or the demonic equivalent of a grumpy old man.

I sure said that!
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#17828: Mar 26th 2017 at 5:08:06 PM

Oh right.

It's only YHVH that has to be the same asshole every time.

Good point.

One Strip! One Strip!
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#17829: Mar 26th 2017 at 5:12:05 PM

As of Apoc, even that's not a sure thing anymore for various super-spoilery reasons. The only character outright confirmed to be the same guy in every appearance is Stephen.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#17830: Mar 26th 2017 at 5:29:13 PM

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Oh yeah. I know at least a little about that, but not all the details so you don't have to say any more.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#17831: Mar 26th 2017 at 6:25:20 PM

Oh, another thing I hope DSJ adds: an actually good Bonus Dungeon. Grus Part 2 was a boring slog, and there aren't even any unique demons there.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#17832: Mar 26th 2017 at 6:38:35 PM

I think it makes sense to at least make it a nightmare to navigate. They are trying to keep intruders out of that half of Grus.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#17833: Mar 26th 2017 at 6:46:21 PM

It's just more Grus though, which is a dull level as a whole, and there's not even any new demons, even though by the time you attempt that dungeon you'll be wanting to both recruit and train on Horologium+-level demons.

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#17835: Mar 27th 2017 at 11:31:39 AM

Amon name was confirmed in the stream.

I Also Sugita and Persona Stalker Club guy with Demonica helms.

edited 27th Mar '17 11:31:58 AM by OmegaRadiance

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#17836: Mar 27th 2017 at 1:38:21 PM

So I'm back on IV, and I'm trying to do the Heavy Weapon Recovery.

...Where the hell is this place? They say North of Ikebukuro, but I have no idea where this Jujo area or the Kita district is.

I swear, finding where a place is tends to be my biggest issue when doing quests in this game.

Also, while I'm at it, where is the Studio Art Building? I want to know where it is for the Rx W Smacktacular XIII, so I'm asking now to avoid the same issues as with the above quest.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#17837: Mar 27th 2017 at 1:44:32 PM

There's a hole in the rock face near Ikebukuro. I know because this really annoyed me too.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#17838: Mar 27th 2017 at 1:58:29 PM

There's a damn hole!

I'd have never found that! Those assholes! Kill them all! Kill them all!

RAAAARRRRGGHHHH!!!!

....right. I'm ok. Thanks. What about that other one I brought up?

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#17839: Mar 27th 2017 at 2:05:23 PM

The Shinjuku West Entrance, where you started the fight against the Corpses.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#17840: Mar 27th 2017 at 2:22:52 PM

I think I remember that place. It's been a while.

Thanks again.

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Mizerous Takat Empress from Outworld Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Takat Empress
#17841: Mar 27th 2017 at 8:31:29 PM

[up] The map of IV was the bane of my existence during my playthrough.

Mileena Madness
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#17843: Mar 27th 2017 at 8:42:47 PM

So I can't decide whether I'd want a Good+/Neutral+ ending in the SJ remake. On the one hand, SJ Neutral is my favorite ending in the whole series and I'd hate to see it reduced. On the other... if anyone in this series deserves happiness but doesn't get it it's Zelenin and Jimenez.

Mizerous Takat Empress from Outworld Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Takat Empress
#17844: Mar 27th 2017 at 9:13:15 PM

[up] You mean like in Nocturne when the chaos route hero was turned back to normal in the really good ending.

Mileena Madness
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#17845: Mar 27th 2017 at 9:20:21 PM

Everyone gets turned back to normal in the Nocturne Freedom ending, actually.

Tarsen Since: Dec, 2009
#17846: Mar 28th 2017 at 12:51:28 AM

i feel like the only way jiminez is going to be happy is if bugaboo comes with him

that aint happening on a reset button ending

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#17847: Mar 28th 2017 at 6:16:36 AM

Yeah. Besides the point was humanity has to progress forward and if they fuck up next time there's nothing holding the Scharzwelt back when it activates to fix the planet. Mem Aleph and the Three Wise Men held it back to test humanity, and it's a natural defense mechanism of the planet otherwise.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
dood9780 Half-Demon Dude In A Bizarre World from The Vortex World Since: Mar, 2014
Half-Demon Dude In A Bizarre World
#17848: Mar 28th 2017 at 6:36:46 AM

Soo... I dont know if this is relevant but during the Atlus stream where Deep Strange Journey was revealed, they showed a slightly extended version of the SMT Switch teaser.

Where after the logo of the series appeared there is a VERY short scene of what appears to be a giant stone hand rising from the earth.

And getting back to Deep Strange Journey, I dont think anybody has mentioned this but one of the new demons is one that until now only showed up in NINE. That demon is Maria.

"Death's vastness holds no peace. I come at the end of the long road—neither human, nor devil... All bends to my will." -Demifiend.
Tarsen Since: Dec, 2009
#17849: Mar 28th 2017 at 7:13:40 AM

oh cool, she's back.

is she related to black maria?

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#17850: Mar 28th 2017 at 7:24:28 AM

Otherway around.

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