@Tobias Because these people are journalists, and resulting censorship of discussion has revealed so much corruption, bias, and playing favorites in gaming journalism that's it's honestly sickening.
Far enough, I can see that distinction.
I'd like to second pretty much everything Nate has said.
Really? On what basis, since I clearly have refutations for them.
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Explain why it's relevant.
edited 19th Sep '14 9:24:16 AM by KingZeal
1)You really don't.
2)I think it's supposed to reflect censorship destroying the internet.
- "No you" is not an argument. It doesn't provide anything to discuss.
- That's an opinion. It does nothing to explain why it's relevant as a "final word". It's no different from any other opinion being expressed.
You're really not giving us much more than opinions to work with(and not very compelling ones at that). At least I'm hearing people out(and even agreeing with some of that they say).
Perhaps he means HIS final word, as in something summing up his position on the matter?
No, see, that's an okay goal, but if that's what you're trying to accomplish, your methods are absolutely atrocious. Longform internet debate like this makes everyone get entrenched in their existing opinions, not meet each other in the middle.
Like, surely, once you pass the 10 page mark, you can no longer claim that you're just stating facts, and once you're getting into debating opinions, 'trying to get to the truth' basically just means 'trying to convince everyone that my opinion is right', because everybody obviously thinks their own opinion is right.
I agree, this is starting to just turn into ALL of us(including me) playing the "let's fight over subjective opinions" game.
Agreeing a little bit doesn't really add any levity to a position. Besides that, I have stated where I've agreed on a few posts here and there.
That would be fine, then.
Like, surely, once you pass the 10 page mark, you can no longer claim that you're just stating facts, and once you're getting into debating opinions, 'trying to get to the truth' basically just means 'trying to convince everyone that my opinion is right', because everybody obviously thinks their own opinion is right.
edited 19th Sep '14 10:00:12 AM by KingZeal
Unless it's one of those times where the truth lies somewhere in the middle(like now, the GG movement may have gone a little bit out of control, but it doesn't change that Zoe and her ilk have done some really shitty things themselves)
When I say 'met in the middle', I don't mean 'everyone agrees to the viewpoint that's exactly halfway between the two initial positions', I mean 'everyone agrees to any viewpoint'.
And, on the contrary, it will end when everyone involved gets sick of it and/or realizes how pointless it is.
Or, in rare cases, when one party admits they were wrong.
edited 19th Sep '14 10:04:27 AM by Gilphon
Until further notice
...Might I direct you gentlemen (and ladies, if any are involved) to the Video Game Journalism thread, where you may continue to vent your spleens and other relevant organs at each other on this subject - for as long as that thread remains unlocked - without inconveniencing the rest of us who want to comment on the other articles? It's getting rather disruptive.
And for what it's worth, I'm a sucker for Jacopo della Quercia's history articles. I wouldn't consider myself a history buff by any stretch of the imagination, but I like reading the sordid / awesome / outright bizarre details.
edited 19th Sep '14 10:05:53 AM by Pyrite
Not a substitute for a formal medical consultation.
But what people are saying is that what she did isn't relevant to how out of control it got. "These things are okay as long as it happens to shitty people" is a really horrible ideology to get into, from either side, including the anti-G Gers who resorted to the same stupid tactics. The people who do that, on either side, have to be treated as despicable, no matter what their motivations were.
No argument there, then.
edited 19th Sep '14 10:08:55 AM by KingZeal
Except that that's just as back on the front of viewing things as black and white. How can you talk about "the truth" when you're willing to to ignore it if it comes form a source you don't like?
I seriously dislike The Internet Aristocrat for example(I think he's an abrasive dick), but I'll admit when he has a good point.
I'm sorry, what? "Harassing people, regardless of what they've done", isn't neutral enough?
That's pretty much all I said last post, so what is there left to disagree about?
edited 19th Sep '14 10:35:49 AM by KingZeal
That's debatable.
Welp, I guess there's nowhere left to go here, then.
It all depends on the levels of harassment and what said person has done.
Like I said, nowhere to go, because I don't agree, and this is now unambiguously a topic for another thread.
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Will you guys just drop this inane topic or take it elsewhere already? If this continues I'm hollering the moderators.
I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.
No it's not relevant to this specific instance. It's relevant in a "salute a worthy foe and walk off the battlefield" instance.
Sometimes... just don't overthink it.
Queen of Good Things, Honest
More like giant cherries
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-current-tv-shows-that-get-more-praise-than-they-deserve_p1/
Does ATB's Smug Snake schtick still amuse the Cracked staff, or will it eventually run dry?
http://www.cracked.com/article_21686_5-awesome-technologies-created-by-ancient-civilizations.html