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DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#12176: Feb 7th 2015 at 8:44:09 AM

I've not actually played that game, but didn't the villain Seymour turn into a total joke by the end because he kept trying to worm his way into the story after already being defeated numerous times?

odafangirl Indeed. from Land of Fun and Pain Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Indeed.
#12177: Feb 7th 2015 at 9:03:00 AM

The Lich himself will probably never be a joke, but I don't expect him to come back in a way that permanently destroys Sweet Pea. Killing children or anything child like is such an extreme most R rated gory horror flicks don't have the balls for it. And they COULD do it without S&P leaping down their throats.

Despite my screen-name, ranting to you about One Piece is not my top priority.
NegaKingKix The Absolute Madman from That one place we don't talk about anymore Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Absolute Madman
#12178: Feb 7th 2015 at 9:51:39 AM

If anything, we could do with a sort of Bruce Banner arc for Sweet Pea where in mortal danger, he activates the inner Lich and it makes him even more ostracized due to that.

"We be we baby!"
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#12179: Feb 7th 2015 at 1:25:20 PM

Yeah, Sweet Pea could have an arc about battling his literal inner demon and then learning how to use that power for good. Maybe learn it from the Ice King, who has sorta-learned the same.

Edit: if at least part of Martin's story was true, then that explains Finn's fear of the ocean.

edited 7th Feb '15 8:50:32 PM by Ogodei

illegalcheese X-14: Killer Cheese Since: Apr, 2010
X-14: Killer Cheese
#12180: Feb 7th 2015 at 9:01:39 PM

It would be incredibly weird for Martin and Finn to not be related, considering the most recent episode both showed them both independently having that weird moment of self-honesty and identical reactions to it (Finn with his baby-self saying he'd never let him go, and Finn's dad saying he always told himself he'd come back to Finn).

minespatch Since: Sep, 2009
#12181: Feb 8th 2015 at 12:27:53 AM

Perhaps the Lich and Sweet Pea will be seperated?

GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
Formerly G.G.
#12182: Feb 8th 2015 at 2:18:03 AM

Martin is a deadbeat father and careless, thoughtless individual. He almost got a village of people killed because of a fire in his ship.

"We are just like Irregular Data. And that applies to you too, Ri CO. And as for you, Player... your job is to correct Irregular Data."
Xeroop Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
#12183: Feb 8th 2015 at 5:32:45 AM

I can't see Sweet Pea being killed off; he could possibly turn back into Lich, but killing him would be cruel. Then again, I'm pretty sure Infant Immortaily isn't something that we can count on, as it is not too long ago when Tiffany got axed.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#12184: Feb 8th 2015 at 6:45:35 AM

Thread title changed per request.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#12185: Feb 8th 2015 at 9:18:34 AM

Tiffany was hardly "infantile" though, a tough independent criminal even if he was clearly just a teenager. The key to Infant Immortality is that Children Are Innocent, and an Enfant Terrible would certainly not get the same degree of audience sympathy simply because he/she were a toddler.

The silver comet with its wagging tail, swimming through the sea had to be a "Does This Remind You of Anything?," right?

Xeroop Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
#12186: Feb 8th 2015 at 11:01:25 AM

[up] The image wasn't helped by the fact that the comet swam into large crack in the sea bed. Interestingly, the baby was present even before it happened.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#12187: Feb 11th 2015 at 5:06:03 PM

So, just watched the latest episode and two things stuck out to me:

1. That Finn called Martin "dad", that sounds weird, not in that hamfisted way shows typically deal with things like this in "Joshua was my real father and he's the only one I'll ever call dad!" but in that there was no awkwardness in his voice about it at all. He just defaulted to it but could switch to calling him Martin just like that.

2. I was surprised that Martin actually remembered Finns name and by how jovial he was with him. Yes, he's definitely a terrible person who would put himself first in any given situation, but I get the feeling that vague story he told was true. I was also surprised by his offer to Finn to go with him. That seemed like a genuine moment and not just mdeflecting Finn's questions or objections to what he was doing like he had done throughout the entire episode.

I'm interested to see how this goes. I can't say I would be thrilled if Finn and Martin ever have a close, loving, father-son relationship, the character doesn't seem built for that. But, I do hope we get some closure. And info on Finn's mom I guess.

edited 11th Feb '15 5:06:19 PM by LSBK

odafangirl Indeed. from Land of Fun and Pain Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
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#12188: Feb 11th 2015 at 7:15:06 PM

Agreed with you on the mom thing. That's a hella important question.

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rosypenguin Wannabe Student Researcher from Atlanta, GA Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#12189: Feb 12th 2015 at 12:00:46 PM

I thought Finn was too trusting of Martin, even when he revealed that he pretended to lose his arm. Yeesh. Everything about Martin is terrible and it would be interesting to see a sort of gradual character growth back to a more fatherly figure but honestly don't see it ever happening. Finn's mom on the other hand, I'd lose to see where the writers go with that :O

His offer for Finn to go with him felt more like a "let's get him to join the dark side so he stops bothering me" moment (Sorry I don't know the trope names for these).

"Listen, all magic is scientific principals presented like 'mystical hoodoo' which is fun, but it's sort of irresponsible."
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#12190: Feb 12th 2015 at 12:05:42 PM

Aside from his horrid abuse of the little clay people, he actually seemed more sympathetic this time around. Deadbeat dad, yeah, but more like a normal deadbeat dad you could sympathize with.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#12191: Feb 12th 2015 at 12:56:39 PM

The clay people thing was helped by the fact that they understood what was happening and just felt like being nice. I doubt he'd actually make them help him either, forcing servitude on them that way would probably be too much work for him.

Like I said, I don't want them to ever actually be "close" because I don't think that mesh's well with what they're trying to do with the character, but I do want them to get to a place where it seems like maybe he actually does care about Finn and Finn can let things go even if things aren't going to be all storybook and they can't be best buds. Finn already seems to be there, actually.

Edit: I still don't get why he pretended to lose his arm.

edited 12th Feb '15 12:57:41 PM by LSBK

hcobb from http://www.hcobb.com/ Since: Jan, 2001
#12192: Feb 12th 2015 at 1:49:50 PM

Only way Finn could have a worse mom than dad is if it's Peebles.

"Show us the Galaxy Warp."
rosypenguin Wannabe Student Researcher from Atlanta, GA Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#12193: Feb 12th 2015 at 2:49:36 PM

The clay people may have understood what they were doing but Martin was about to leave them to die, bloated and unable to move. Don't forget he also (unintentionally) killed GGGG (maybe they'll bring him back, like they did with Prismo).

"Listen, all magic is scientific principals presented like 'mystical hoodoo' which is fun, but it's sort of irresponsible."
NegaKingKix The Absolute Madman from That one place we don't talk about anymore Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Absolute Madman
#12194: Feb 12th 2015 at 4:34:58 PM

Damn, those lemonguys are creepy!

"We be we baby!"
Shokew ... Is With Those Who Fight For Dominance from Searching for New Places to Liberate Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
... Is With Those Who Fight For Dominance
#12195: Feb 12th 2015 at 4:36:45 PM

Goddamnit - I was hoping we didn't have to deal with Lemongrab again - I fucking hate this guy almost, if not more than Martin... And I don't see this ep. redeeming him, either.

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NegaKingKix The Absolute Madman from That one place we don't talk about anymore Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Absolute Madman
#12196: Feb 12th 2015 at 4:37:48 PM

Is he still hung over FP? We need a new woman for Finn to lose.

"We be we baby!"
NegaKingKix The Absolute Madman from That one place we don't talk about anymore Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Absolute Madman
#12197: Feb 12th 2015 at 4:39:40 PM

I hope kids don't confuse "gaily" for homosexual.

"We be we baby!"
NegaKingKix The Absolute Madman from That one place we don't talk about anymore Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Absolute Madman
#12198: Feb 12th 2015 at 4:45:00 PM

That was just messed up. what was the message inside all this?

"We be we baby!"
Bur Chaotic Neutral from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Not war
#12199: Feb 12th 2015 at 4:45:30 PM

I'm so confused.

i. hear. a. sound.
rosypenguin Wannabe Student Researcher from Atlanta, GA Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#12200: Feb 12th 2015 at 4:45:48 PM

I thought there were more adults who watch AT than kids anyway. And ugh, just when I was starting to forget about Lemongrab he and his ridiculous voice return.

"Listen, all magic is scientific principals presented like 'mystical hoodoo' which is fun, but it's sort of irresponsible."

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