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Shadow6666 Since: Sep, 2011
#7076: Aug 9th 2012 at 8:23:35 PM

That it isn't. I'll leave it in then.

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Rinne Since: Jan, 2011
#7077: Aug 10th 2012 at 1:38:40 PM

May I call dibs on Pineco/Forretress? This is a project that I've been lurking around for a long time and those two are probably my favorite.

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The Wanderer
#7078: Aug 10th 2012 at 2:01:07 PM

It should be fine.

Eating a Vanilluxe will give you frostbite.
Rinne Since: Jan, 2011
#7079: Aug 10th 2012 at 3:27:03 PM

First time for everything. I tried to reconcile the issue on Pineco/Forretress' movement, because the anime and the game Pokedex presented it differently. Feedback would be much appreciated.

Pineco Line

Morphs [Oak Catalog #]

  • Pineco [204] – Pachythelia semenis
  • Forretress [205] – P. armorum

Physical Descriptions

The two species of the Pineco line are both classified as insects, but otherwise share little external similarities.

The external structures of a Pineco are simple by Pokémon standards, consisting of a tough egg-shaped “shell” of bark two feet in length and one foot in diameter. Four rings of six plates of bark cover the Pineco totally, with the only sensory organs visible being a pair of small reddish eyes peering out from underneath the topmost ring. The plates are usually slightly flared (presumably for ventilation) but can be folded over completely if need be by means of fine silk threads. A single large horn is on the end closest to the eyes.

Upon evolving to Forretress, however, the rings of bark fuse into two bumpy hemispheres that harden into an organic material as durable as steel. The hemispheres are usually partially separated, only revealing two blank eyes and four red turret-like protrusions. When threatened, however, the turrets can retract and the halves brought together. Weighing the Forretress reveals that the Pokémon has increased greatly in weight, from an average of 7 kilograms to 126.

Golden-brown colored Pineco and Forretress have been rarely observed. These alternate colorations are prized by collectors, but otherwise serve no purpose.

Notable Biology

Pineco are for the most part stationary creatures. They are usually found anchored to a tree branch by means of the horn on their head, and theoretically they can remain there for the rest of their lifespan. However, a Pineco can move around on the ground by rocking back and forth and using the momentum to roll.

Forretress share this trait, but spin around a vertical axis instead of a horizontal one to move. They also tend to be more mobile than their pre-evolution is, changing residence trees every few weeks instead of choosing one for life. Due to a Forretress' natural metallic build, they also can emit a bio-magnetic field around them to "hover" a few inches off the ground, enabling them to traverse rough terrain easier. However, this does not allow them to cross deep bodies of water.

The plates that cover a Pineco’s body are notably not grown as part of their body. Instead, the bark is ripped from nearby conifers (thicker types are preferable) and woven together by means of a sticky silk fluid, similar to that used by Spinarak to form their webs. A Pineco whose plates are damaged notably act much more aggressively, and will immediately seek out replacement material. Forretress, however, have absorbed the plates’ structure into their body and can regenerate them if wounded.

Little is known about Pineco line’s feeding processes, and the act has never been caught on camera. This is due to the species having a strong reluctance to show its “entrails,” attacking anyone who tries to pry or otherwise investigate. (Attempting to open a Pineco or Forretress’ shell is considered Pokémon abuse and can result in revocation of one’s license.) However, it is theorized that they can release a faint pheromone only detectable to other insects, which serves as a chemical lure.

There are notably two varieties of the line. The first and most common variant can, under periods of intense duress, momentarily condense their plates and concentrate to endure a hit that would otherwise knock them out. However, a second variant has been observed. This one has denser plates, allowing them to resist abrasive damage such as from sandstorms or whipping hail.

Habitat

Pineco are found primarily in the upper limbs of coniferous trees, such as pines, cypresses or spruces. They require specimens that are mature enough to hold their weight and with large and verdant enough branches to remain hidden. Forretress are not as common as their pre-evolution is in the wild: however, they have been noted to prefer trees at higher elevations, such as those along mountain ridges. Both will choose non-conifers if there are no other alternatives, if only to remain off the ground for extended periods.

Diet

As mentioned previously, the Pineco line’s diet is currently unknown, and is theorized to be small insects. However, if there is no prey available, a Pineco can use the horn on the top of its body to “tap” a tree and suck its sap, using it as a temporary source of nutrition. (This has only been determined through examining the holes the Pokémon leaves behind.) Forretress, however, cannot, and any alternate sources of food they may use are currently unknown.

Hazards

For the most part, Pineco are rather docile creatures. They do not act except in self-defense, and will not actively pursue prey. However, they can be easily startled, in which case a Pineco will instinctively drop from its tree and release massive amounts of concussive energy through vibrating its bark plates approximately 50 times per second. This “explosion” is often enough to send intruders flying a good distance, but it inadvertently knocks the Pineco unconscious in the process. They can also scatter their bark plates a sizable distance from themselves, using the sharp spikes within as makeshift caltrops, and spit sticky silk threads.

Forretress carry the same risks as Pineco do, but they are considered to be much more dangerous in practice. This is due to a new combination of their metallized outer surface and a propensity towards spinning. Freshly-evolved Forretress have been known to destroy trees by spinning rapidly and bashing into them, and they can easily do the same to a Trainer’s house’s walls. Therefore, a new Forretress’ owner should supervise it during the first two weeks of ownership, avoiding small or enclosed spaces that they could damage until the Pokémon has acclimated.

Courtship and Childrearing

During mid-summer, female Pineco or Forretress that is looking for a mate will spin a thick web of silk high in a tree, lining it with pine needles and other detritus, and remain motionless. The first male of the species to approach the female will mate briefly and fertilize the female’s eggs. The male will then leave after, while the female guards the eggs during gestation. When they hatch, the female will create a pseudo-shell for them out of two bark scales – the young are then released into the wild to expand the shell.

Pineco and Forretress can mate in captivity, and with species not including their own. However, like with many of their behaviors, they will not copulate while observed.

Social Structure

Both Pineco and Forretress are highly solitary creatures. There is no family structure to speak of: young Pineco are presumed to know how to survive instinctually. They are additionally very territorial, and if a Pineco or Forretress tries to occupy the same tree where one is already present, the first one will bash its body against the intruder to get it to leave.

In Human Society

(No clue. ;3;)
Written by Rinne.

edited 11th Aug '12 3:36:08 PM by Rinne

TracerBullet Guess Who...? from A Dark and Rainy Alley Since: Jan, 2011
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#7080: Aug 11th 2012 at 10:40:13 AM

[up] It seems like a nice start, if needing to eventually be gone over again for the obligatory polish. The most immediate thing that I noticed that seemed off was that Pineco can apparently vibrate 300K times per second... Is that feat even remotely approachable by any known materials? ._.

I mean, vibrating 30 times per second would already be pretty darn impressive (1800 cycles per minute). 300K times per second seems like it would burn through chitin via friction.

Also, have you ever considered a 'Pineco in a fire' bit? o3o

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rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (USA) (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
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#7081: Aug 11th 2012 at 10:54:06 AM

@Rinne: Well, Forretress do naturally learn Magnet Rise, so it isn't too far-fetched for them to move using magenetism.

In other news, I think I'll call Dibs on Alomomola.

Eating a Vanilluxe will give you frostbite.
Rinne Since: Jan, 2011
#7082: Aug 11th 2012 at 3:34:36 PM

@Bullet: Not sure out of which orifice I pulled that number. Nerfed it down to 50 per second - a hummingbird beats their wings at 25 times per second, but that's for sustained use, and since this is momentary I don't think it's unreasonable for the number to be a bit higher. And yes, I considered the "Pineco in a fire" route, but I honestly have no clue to do it since I want to divide their traits between bagworms and pinecones.

@rmc: Oooooh, didn't think of that. Added it in - thank you for the idea. ;3

edited 11th Aug '12 3:34:50 PM by Rinne

Tropeless Dry Paratroopa from World 8. Since: Jun, 2011
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#7083: Aug 11th 2012 at 10:40:57 PM

I'd imagine for the Human Society section, it'd go something like "Due to the line's low-mobility lives, they make for highly uninteresting characters and have seen no use in modern media.

@Tympole entry: Since the Poliwag line DOES exist, I'd imagine that some of those roles would be delegated to that line as well (Battletoads in particular; they are genetically enhanced frogs with strength, Poliwrath is a genetically enhanced (Water Stone) frog with strength (Fighting type)).

Also, I'm going to edit the Numel entry with the rather obvious stuff I missed, and start work on Foongus probably tomorrow.

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Blissey1 insert title here from a random Pokècenter Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
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#7084: Aug 12th 2012 at 12:00:17 PM

quick note on the numel entry: you probably shouldn't say that they look like a dromedary camel, as I don't think RL camels exist in the pokeverse.

It's nice to see this place more active!

edited 12th Aug '12 12:00:41 PM by Blissey1

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rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (USA) (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#7085: Aug 12th 2012 at 12:07:24 PM

Indeed.

Eating a Vanilluxe will give you frostbite.
Tropeless Dry Paratroopa from World 8. Since: Jun, 2011
Dry Paratroopa
#7086: Aug 14th 2012 at 3:51:35 PM

I just went and looked at five random plant/animal based Pokemon entries, and four of them had references to the animals/plants they were based off of. I think it's fine.

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rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (USA) (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#7087: Aug 14th 2012 at 4:18:07 PM

That's because we haven't gotten around to getting rid of those yet. (We're not supposed to be making direct references to RL animals.)

edited 14th Aug '12 4:18:37 PM by rmctagg09

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Blissey1 insert title here from a random Pokècenter Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
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#7088: Aug 14th 2012 at 10:57:13 PM

yeah, a lot of articles made earlier on in the projects life need to have small things like that revised.

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rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (USA) (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#7089: Aug 17th 2012 at 12:38:31 PM

I wanted to suggest that if people wanted a better idea of how some Pokemon work biomechanically, Pokedex 3D and 3D Pro are pretty good for that.

Eating a Vanilluxe will give you frostbite.
grandphoenix Since: Jul, 2012
#7090: Aug 17th 2012 at 2:22:34 PM

[up]Can i ask what those 2 are?

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#7091: Aug 17th 2012 at 2:33:19 PM

I looked over the Abra line, and it is in DESPERATE need of an overhaul.

DAMMIT MARK, STOP HOTTING HELPY!!
Eskay64 Since: Nov, 2010
#7092: Aug 17th 2012 at 2:45:11 PM

Hey, would anyone mind if I call dibs on the Taillow line article?

And yes, I'm new here. Just so you know and don't say "who the heck is this guy?"

rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (USA) (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#7093: Aug 17th 2012 at 2:58:18 PM

[up]x3 http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pokedex_3d

[up][up] How so?

[up] I don't see a problem. Welcome to the Project Eskay.

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Blissey1 insert title here from a random Pokècenter Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
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#7094: Aug 17th 2012 at 3:37:53 PM

well, the abra article is a tad sparse, but I'd hardly say that it's in "desperate need" of an overhaul.

if anything is in desperate need of an overhaul, it's the pidgey article...

and welcome to the project Eskay!

edited 17th Aug '12 3:39:09 PM by Blissey1

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Sixthhokage1 Since: Feb, 2013
#7095: Aug 17th 2012 at 3:41:53 PM

Been over a year since I found this, and I *still* haven't written an article >_>. I may call dibs on Twinleaf's article again, but not quite yet.

grandphoenix Since: Jul, 2012
#7096: Aug 17th 2012 at 3:57:05 PM

thanks for that. looking at the Exeggcute article made me wonder how common the evolution stones are. Are they an exhaustible resource or do they appear somewhere where there is a lot of that element, for example thunderstone coming from a mountain that is often struck by lightning. I know I seem to bounce from one idea to the next. I'm trying not to overdo the Torchic cooking point. I might bring that back up later.

Blissey1 insert title here from a random Pokècenter Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
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#7097: Aug 17th 2012 at 5:57:30 PM

if I recall, elemental stones have often been a sticking point for the rest of us as well.

edited 17th Aug '12 5:57:45 PM by Blissey1

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rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (USA) (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
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#7098: Aug 17th 2012 at 5:58:29 PM

We haven't even quite decided exactly how they work yet.

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Tangent128 from Virginia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#7099: Aug 17th 2012 at 6:21:38 PM

I've always preferred to think of them as accumulations of certain chemicals, some mineral, others organic.

But that means there is no "radiation" as many canon sources claim, which is thus on the revisionist end of things. But then, I think of radiation in a physical "alpha/beta/EM" sense, which don't really give an organism much reason to couple their lifecycles to them.

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grandphoenix Since: Jul, 2012
#7100: Aug 17th 2012 at 6:54:13 PM

I'm not sure about the rest of the stone evolutions but in terms of the Eevee line i think that they should be able to evolve in to a climate without a stone but it takes more time than most trainers are willing to take. Continuing on the Eevee theme,it has been said that the Eevees are rare despite their ability to adapt to any climate. Perhaps the various -eons have to migrate to some locations regardless of where they live in order to give birth to Eevees in a place where they can survive until they grow up. A Flareon can live near a volcano but the Eevee kits can't. Edit:I seem to have trouble getting the enter key to create spaces.

edited 17th Aug '12 6:59:00 PM by grandphoenix


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