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Marioguy128 Geomancer from various galaxies Since: Jan, 2010
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#5476: May 24th 2011 at 9:24:52 AM

Hmm, yeah we might want to change that.

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#5477: May 24th 2011 at 4:33:17 PM

[up][up] I know, and put that in the In Human Society section. However, Dunsparce is also based off a bumblebee, for its wings, stripes, stinger/drill tail, and tendency to burrow underground. That's the main reason for the description of its behavior as insectoid. Personally, I think of Dunsparce as a sort of cross between insect and snake (not genetically, just physically), developed as weirdly as it is due to isolation.

edited 24th May '11 4:35:28 PM by memyselfandI2

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#5478: May 24th 2011 at 4:59:40 PM

The theory does have some standing. Except in unovan weirdness, Dunsparce is found in locations isolated from other bug mons, which if lasted long enough would lead the species to too strong a variance w/r/t other bugs (they're not a sort of Gen2 Bidoof for nothing). Dusparce is explicitly based off the bungus bumblebee, which is a bee that nets and rests buried in the ground. Then the mythological aspect. It's definitively a snakelike insect or something.

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Marioguy128 Geomancer from various galaxies Since: Jan, 2010
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#5479: May 24th 2011 at 5:05:03 PM

Something to note, Dunsparce doesn't learn any bug type moves at all. Something to consider.

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#5480: May 24th 2011 at 5:05:26 PM

[up][up] I'd say it migrated to Unova, but that makes no sense....maybe it was brought there by traders? Somehow?

But yeah, snakelike insect makes sense.

[up] Dunsparce also isn't a bug-type. I think that its isolation caused it to develop really, really, weirdly, until it bore no genetic resemblence to any insect, only physical.

edited 24th May '11 5:08:28 PM by memyselfandI2

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#5481: May 24th 2011 at 5:07:13 PM

↑↑Unless there are more cases of Pokémon of Type X that learn no attack of Type X at al, I'd surely call that either a Take That! to the myth, or Ga SS. In particular contrasting what Ground type moves can Dunsparce learn.

[down] That sounds... particularly senseful, considering what Unova is an analogue of...

edited 24th May '11 5:08:41 PM by SilentReverence

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#5482: May 24th 2011 at 5:07:46 PM

Dunsparce was introduced to Unova for some reason, and that's where it prospered and completely messed with some of the wildlife , causing more and more out-of-region pokemon to be introduced. Therefore, pokemon of the post-game unova.

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#5483: May 24th 2011 at 5:11:15 PM

Dunsparce appears to be proof of evolution's randomness.

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Locoman Since: Nov, 2010
#5484: May 24th 2011 at 6:29:37 PM

I figure that most of the non-Gen V pokemon in Unova are invasive species or, in the case of flyers like Wingull, migrating from other regions in the world.

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#5485: May 24th 2011 at 6:34:39 PM

I've been meaning to bring this subject up.

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#5487: May 24th 2011 at 6:58:56 PM

So....current updates on Dunsparce

1. It is a snakelike insect, mutated so far that it can no longer breed with its fellow insects.

2. It is invasive to Unova.

Am I missing anything?

Edit: Article has been changed to include these.

edited 24th May '11 8:16:44 PM by memyselfandI2

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#5488: May 25th 2011 at 8:27:17 AM

I actually didn't forget, I was just strapped for time, I'll meld the articles today.

I'd also like to note a discrepency in the Dunsparce Article. it says it's a 'Normal-type" pokemon, but i thought it was agreed that Types were constructs of the Pokemon league meant for (in-story) gameplay purposes and not based in any scientific strata. Seeing it here would be like a chapter on the best dogfighters in a Kennel Club handbook.

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#5489: May 25th 2011 at 8:27:17 AM

I actually didn't forget, I was just strapped for time, I'll meld the articles today.

I'd also like to note a discrepency in the Dunsparce Article. it says it's a 'Normal-type" pokemon, but i thought it was agreed that Types were constructs of the Pokemon league meant for (in-story) gameplay purposes and not based in any scientific strata. Seeing it here would be like a chapter on the best dogfighters in a Kennel Club handbook.

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#5490: May 25th 2011 at 8:31:34 AM

It has been said before, Dunsparce is based off the Tsuchinoko, a fat serpent. Where's all this about Dunsparce being an insect coming from?

EDIT: Nevermind, that bumblebee aesthetic.

edited 25th May '11 8:34:39 AM by Neo_Crimson

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#5491: May 25th 2011 at 8:36:31 AM

Traits-wise, Dunsparce shares a fair amount of similarities in design and behaviour with the bumbus bumblebee, as I have already said. One thing does not exclude the other though. I mean, we do have flying chandeliers here.

EDIT: Nevermind; above edited for nevermind.

edited 25th May '11 8:36:59 AM by SilentReverence

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Neo_Crimson Your army sucks. from behind your lines. Since: Jan, 2001
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#5492: May 25th 2011 at 8:39:37 AM

It also learns moves associated with snakes (Glare, Coil). Maybe a little blurb saying that they're related to Ekans/Seviper/Snivy is in order?

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#5493: May 25th 2011 at 10:06:36 AM

They don't have to be related to other snakes, they can just be part of a serpentine class of pokemon.

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#5494: May 25th 2011 at 10:14:42 AM

[up]That's what I meant.

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#5495: May 25th 2011 at 10:19:28 AM

I thought you meant "related" as in "evolutionary relative"

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#5496: May 25th 2011 at 10:37:41 AM

Well, in biological terms for all of them to be in a Serpentine-class of Pokemon (and in real-life biology that means they're all in the suborder Serpentes) they have to have an evolutionary ancestor somewhere down the line.

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#5498: May 25th 2011 at 11:51:43 AM

Erm, Dunsparce, a bumblebee? Because it has stripes? And you are giving more importance to the minor bee-like things, that to the fact it is described as the LAND SNAKE Pokemon, that it is explicity based on a snakelike cryptid, and that it lears the snake-exclusive Glare?

Gimme a break.

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#5499: May 25th 2011 at 11:54:58 AM

Speaking of snakes, Tangent is currently occupied with catching black rat snakes. They so evasive...

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#5500: May 25th 2011 at 12:56:27 PM

I agree with Eriorguez, deciding Dunsparce is an insect based on some vaguely bee-like traits (especially calling it an snakelike insect which makes NO sense when you look up the definition of an insect) is rediculous.

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