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Zeether Knight of Legend from Mahora (I wish) Since: Jan, 2001
Knight of Legend
#26: May 25th 2010 at 5:50:19 PM

Am I the only one who knows about the series only because of these?

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Nyktos (srahc 84) eltit Since: Jan, 2001
(srahc 84) eltit
#27: May 25th 2010 at 6:08:47 PM

Xcept Femio. What nationality is he supposed to be nayways?
AWESOME

I guess it is.
ShayGuy Since: Jan, 2001
#28: May 25th 2010 at 6:16:00 PM

For Drosselmeyer, I think the events of Princess Tutu are less a story in the sense that he has complete control, that nothing happens without his saying so, and that his word is truth, and more like a game of Solitaire in which the cards have minds of their own. People talk about characters taking on a life of they're own, but these people are every bit as real as he was. He's just using his power to bring stories to life to pull their strings and bind them to "the Story."

the1ultimate Protector of the Realm from Plato's Cave Since: Jan, 2010
Protector of the Realm
#29: May 25th 2010 at 6:18:29 PM

Not even real authors have complete control over their characters.

Besides which I think Drosselmeyer wanted his story to evolve and surprise him.

I loved his final fourth wall speculation at the end.

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Smokie Since: Jan, 2001
#30: May 25th 2010 at 6:19:56 PM

But the concept of Drosselmeyer is extremely interesting. I mean... The writer is also a character, watching the whole thing from the outside and steering the story into the direction he wants.

PikaHikariKT Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#31: May 25th 2010 at 6:32:40 PM

Xcept Femio. What nationality is he supposed to be anyways?

French...I think (the triple irony!). In the Abridged series he jumps between a lot of accents.

Smokie Since: Jan, 2001
#32: May 25th 2010 at 6:40:27 PM

Look at that, the dub is better than I expected.

CDRW Since: May, 2016
#33: May 25th 2010 at 6:50:22 PM

^^ Related. grin

edited 25th May '10 6:50:39 PM by CDRW

PikaHikariKT Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#34: May 25th 2010 at 6:52:32 PM

This probably needs to be posted then. Spoilers for the end, but still hilarious.

CDRW Since: May, 2016
#35: May 25th 2010 at 7:00:56 PM

^ That explains soooooooo much. Like why Fakir didn't write a story where she turns back into a girl. evil grin

edited 25th May '10 7:01:05 PM by CDRW

ShayGuy Since: Jan, 2001
#36: May 25th 2010 at 7:08:37 PM

Not even real authors have complete control over their characters.

Besides which I think Drosselmeyer wanted his story to evolve and surprise him.

Yes, but the relationship he has with the PT characters is very different from Ikuko Ito's, or the relationship he presumably had with the characters of TP&TR when he was alive and writing it, or the relationship that Tailsteak had with his own characters. Again, Princess Tutu was his creation, but the duck wasn't.

the1ultimate Protector of the Realm from Plato's Cave Since: Jan, 2010
Protector of the Realm
#37: May 25th 2010 at 7:22:14 PM

Drosselmeyer doesn't seem to care about anything except the story itself though. He pays no heed to the change of medium including a change of setting, the characters being aware of his existence, the real people affected by the story or anything.

Come to think of it, how real was TP&TR when it was a book? Doesn't everything Drosselmeyer writes come true? Was it the story Drosselmeyer was writing in his own blood before he died, or was that his own story?

edited 25th May '10 7:23:59 PM by the1ultimate

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CDRW Since: May, 2016
#38: May 25th 2010 at 7:25:12 PM

the story in blood is his own, which he used to write the machine that writes his story after his death into existance, which machine writes him into existance even...though....My head hurts.

edited 25th May '10 7:25:19 PM by CDRW

the1ultimate Protector of the Realm from Plato's Cave Since: Jan, 2010
Protector of the Realm
#39: May 25th 2010 at 7:28:16 PM

^ Out of interest, where did you get all that from?

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CDRW Since: May, 2016
#40: May 25th 2010 at 7:31:32 PM

Just my memory of the last episode.

Edit: Why? Now you've got me nervous that I misinterpreted the whole end.

edited 25th May '10 7:33:56 PM by CDRW

the1ultimate Protector of the Realm from Plato's Cave Since: Jan, 2010
Protector of the Realm
#41: May 25th 2010 at 7:40:07 PM

I just didn't get that watching it. You could be right, but I don't remember it being explicitly stated.

The machine is certainly a story... Oh man I've never been very good at picking up on hints. Someone should really do a recap or synopsis of Princess Tutu.

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CDRW Since: May, 2016
#42: May 25th 2010 at 7:44:50 PM

I do know for sure that The machine was what was writing the Princess Tutu story.

ShayGuy Since: Jan, 2001
#43: May 25th 2010 at 8:07:56 PM

The Story the characters were experiencing, that is, not the anime.

Tumbril Since: Feb, 2010
#44: May 25th 2010 at 8:09:46 PM

But then Fakir dismantled the machine that he wrote into existence that writes him into existence. So does that mean that he is no longer being written into existence, and therefore...he can't write the machine into existence? Wha???

edited 25th May '10 8:10:11 PM by Tumbril

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Wicked223 from Death Star in the forest Since: Apr, 2009
#45: May 25th 2010 at 8:11:38 PM

And now you see my reasons.

You can't even write racist abuse in excrement on somebody's car without the politically correct brigade jumping down your throat!
CDRW Since: May, 2016
#46: May 26th 2010 at 7:04:04 AM

^^ Ah yeah. Drosselmeyer did still exist after the machine was dismantled. I do kinda-sorta remember them saying that the machine was what allowed him to keep writing after death though. I'm going to have to pay more attention this time around.

the1ultimate Protector of the Realm from Plato's Cave Since: Jan, 2010
Protector of the Realm
#47: May 26th 2010 at 9:39:14 PM

Fakir destroyed the machine that wrote the story. But there was more to the machine than that. Somewhere there were gears still spinning.

Although, Drosselmeyer appeared to be leaving that area with Uzura.

edited 26th May '10 9:40:05 PM by the1ultimate

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RawPower Jesus as in Revelations from Barcelona Since: Aug, 2009
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AckSed Pat. St. of Archive Binge from Pure Imagination Since: Jan, 2001
Pat. St. of Archive Binge
#50: Jun 5th 2010 at 9:26:39 AM

You made me spray my screen. Thanks.tongue

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