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Pannic Since: Jul, 2009
#13751: Sep 28th 2012 at 1:54:27 PM

[up]Indeed it does. The show tries to have Kurt be a sort of beacon for gay kids, but that's always a problem when he isn't taken to task for his wrongdoings.

Anyway, now to watch Brittany 2.0. "Happyville: The town where math was never invented." Yep. She's back alright.

Also, I'm assuming from conversation about last night's episode that Finchel drama is coming up? Oh boy...

edited 28th Sep '12 2:05:19 PM by Pannic

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#13752: Sep 28th 2012 at 3:10:40 PM

If only she had stopped at "I love you"...

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#13753: Sep 28th 2012 at 3:35:22 PM

@Handle Blaine makes him cry by next episode, so there's that.

Also his Dad called him out on hitting on Finn waaaaaay long ago.

Pannic Since: Jul, 2009
#13754: Sep 28th 2012 at 3:52:07 PM

Finished Brittany 2.0. That was fun.

Izeinspring Since: Jun, 2012
#13755: Sep 28th 2012 at 6:36:05 PM

... He put her on a train to New York, joined the army and did not call her for months. Without discussing any of it with her first! That counts as "Broken up", "Single" and "Free to pursue any and all other options" If the show tries to paint her as a hussy in that situation, that is just completely insane, even for glee.

edited 28th Sep '12 6:37:35 PM by Izeinspring

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#13756: Sep 28th 2012 at 6:52:08 PM

I'm almost certain Brittany threw the election, because she's not socially stupid. But I don't know why she did that.

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#13757: Sep 28th 2012 at 7:00:58 PM

[up][up]Of course the show is going to paint Rachel as a hussy... Why would you think otherwise?

That said, Finn's reaction seemed more along the lines of "crap, I'm too late" than "you cheating bitch".

edited 28th Sep '12 7:01:18 PM by Swish

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#13758: Sep 29th 2012 at 3:46:55 AM

[up]Makes sense.

[up][up][up]Aw, come on, they were gonna get married. Whatever happened to the "waiting for my lover who went to war"? That usually takes more than a few months!

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#13759: Sep 29th 2012 at 3:59:53 AM

[up]Things change. This ain't WW 2 anymore.

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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#13760: Sep 29th 2012 at 4:07:16 AM

That's a non-answer and a truism. What, exactly, has changed?

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#13761: Sep 29th 2012 at 4:13:55 AM

[up]Well, for one thing, the rates of divorce and infidelity.

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#13762: Sep 29th 2012 at 4:15:28 AM

Why have they changed? And I'll give you "rate of divorce", but would the rate of infidelity have changed? Aren't people stuck in loveless marriage more likely to be unfaithful?

edited 29th Sep '12 4:16:49 AM by TheHandle

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#13763: Sep 29th 2012 at 4:33:40 AM

[up]That's true in reality, but this is a television relationship-based drama we're talking about. Cheating happens on those at the drop of a hat. You know this to be true.

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#13764: Sep 29th 2012 at 4:43:06 AM

Now you're Moving the Goalposts.

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#13765: Sep 29th 2012 at 9:13:03 AM

I honestly thought Finn did break up with her in the last episode of season 3, and told her they'd figure out if they still wanted to be together when he got back.

So, I don't think Finn will be super mad at her.

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#13766: Sep 29th 2012 at 12:30:48 PM

Kurt was kind of a Mary Sue in 'Theatricality' and through most of season 2 (especially 'Furt') but in season 3 he was the exact opposite; no matter how much he tried, he didn't get anything, apart from the role of Tony which he didn't get because he was too dumb to realize that 'acting' doesn't mean 'be yourself' AT ALL (btw, this show has a very low opinion of acting, doesn't it?).

But I think that especially now Blaine fits the Marty Stu title a lot more. He always blames something else for his mistakes and the show says he's right, he gets EVERYTHING he wants and everybody loves him, not to mention he's the perfect, Dude Magnet and blameless one in the Klaine relationship, and all the problems are, apparently, Kurt's fault (waah, Kurt pays too much attention to his future; waah, Kurt didn't want to have sex with me in his car even after I tried to take matters in my own hand; waah, Kurt flirts with someone because I've ignored him to flirt heavily with a guy who wants to sex me... oh wait).

Why do the Glee writers saddle a quite good (not great, mind you, but pretty good) actor like Darren Criss with such an awful character?

But we shouldn't be surprised by this, seeing the show is written by people like Brad Falchuck, who made his stupidity perfectly clear when he said that Dave Karofsky's storyline had a good ending (yeah, before you REOPENED IT AGAIN AND LEFT IT HANGING for your little PSA about teen suicide).

edited 29th Sep '12 12:35:41 PM by PersonalPOV

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#13767: Sep 29th 2012 at 12:47:41 PM

"Also his Dad called him out on hitting on Finn waaaaaay long ago."

By called him out, what he actually did was mention "Yeah, you didn't tell me the full story."''

I'm not going to beat a dead horse, but that quick reference felt more like the writers acknowledging the fans complaining and trying to pacify them. At no point does Kurt ever acknowledge or even own up to the fact that he was trying to seduce Finn.

[up]Honestly, I blame a lot of it on the writers just plain sucking at the romances. When it comes to couples, one person always comes off looking like an asshole, but never gets called out on their wrong doing. (i.e. Brittany cheating on Artie, but the break up being Artie's fault for calling her dumb. Finn and Quinn cheating behind Sam's back despite Finn being the victim of the same thing previously. Rachel giving Finn crap for him sleeping with Santana when they weren't even dating.)

edited 29th Sep '12 12:52:07 PM by Lionheart0

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#13768: Sep 29th 2012 at 12:48:43 PM

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I would agree, if he weren't so danm nerdy and dorky all the time. I think as an audience, where actually supposed to look down on Blaine a bit for his dependence on Kurt and his need for validation from others.

I see him largely as a foil to Rachel: Blaine transferred from the school where he was the star and the center for his boyfriend's approval, Rachel never for a moment considered giving up on NYADA or Finn, at most she was going to defer her application. Rachel's reaction to being treated poorly by the student body was to work harder and harder on the same path in order to win them over, Blaine's reaction is to change things about himself to suit others (note that when Santana took a shoot at Blaine's boy ties last season he stopped wearing them for a while)

edited 29th Sep '12 12:49:08 PM by LMage

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#13769: Sep 29th 2012 at 12:49:36 PM

Blaine was created as a one-shot character who demonstrated that being gay =/= being miserable. However, he filled that role with such charm that decided to keep him on for more episodes, which was a bad idea because the writers hadn't really fleshed him out (and they still haven't done so very much). Marty Stu-dom was a natural result of that.

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#13770: Sep 29th 2012 at 12:53:13 PM

[up]So basically he was the gay Sue Sylvester. tongue

Pannic Since: Jul, 2009
#13771: Sep 29th 2012 at 12:57:43 PM

Blaine hasn't annoyed me thus far this season. In these first two episodes he's more "pleasantly normal" than "annoyingly bland."

As for Kurt the sue, eh. He hasn't done anything that's annoyed me in quite awhile. And I don't really care about Theatricality any more. Duets put it in its place, done and done. Besides, three seasons ago. Actually, Blaine did have more "wow, you're a dick" bits in season 3 than Kurt. With Kurt I only got annoyed with the stupid dodgeball speech and "why aren't you reporting Sebastian for assault?" things. Blaine had that thoroughly dickish "I'm not for sale!" bit, wherein he was the one that got apologized to.

On another note, does the Glee cast lip-sync for their live performances? Because maaaaaaan would that be hypocritical.

edited 29th Sep '12 12:59:34 PM by Pannic

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#13772: Sep 29th 2012 at 12:59:03 PM

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No, they don't autotune either. I remember hearing a rumor back in season 1 that Lea Michel had it put in her contract that they where not allowed to autotune her.

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#13773: Sep 29th 2012 at 1:00:40 PM

Ah, righto. I just remember looking up some Youtube videos and arguments in the comment section about whether or not they were lip-synching.

The whole plot with Rachel and whatserface teacher seems awful contrived. Usually I can suspend my disbelief when it comes to the characters pulling fully-choreographed and rehearsed musical routines out of thin air, but somehow Rachel's rendition of that song, well... eh.

Also, I think there's a bit of a difference between a teacher going "I'm going to be harsh on you so I can motivate you to be better" and "I am specifically discriminating against you in a classroom setting and intentionally denying you of the education that you are paying for."

edited 29th Sep '12 1:08:26 PM by Pannic

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#13774: Sep 29th 2012 at 1:39:00 PM

Also, I think there's a bit of a difference between a teacher going "I'm going to be harsh on you so I can motivate you to be better" and "I am specifically discriminating against you in a classroom setting and intentionally denying you of the education that you are paying for."

I agree. I just think that Cassandra is doing the former rather than the latter.

If she was doing the latter, it seems to be a symptom of NYADA than her specific teaching style... As evident by Carmen Tibideaux's whole "you sucked singing that song, leave school now and reapply for next year" bit...

edited 29th Sep '12 1:39:47 PM by Swish

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#13775: Sep 29th 2012 at 2:45:25 PM

I met a girl who is a pro singer. She despises Michelle. Says she promotes a very wrong take on singing, both the act and the career, and she predicted that she'd get lose her voice before age thirty at this rate.

Back to the show, yeah, Blaine giving Sam grief about being a stripper is... strange. Maybe he has really old-fashioned values? Or maybe he's having the reaction a girl would have if she were made to collaborate with a stripper? Because, by Double Standard standards, as far as I understand them, any guy who's handsome and sexy enough that women would pay to see them naked would get congratulated on their extreme stud-ness, and asked whether it had gotten them some encounters with pretty women backstage. Or something.

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