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Knowlessman hey i dunno, why don't you tell me from Stupidtown, USA (FL) Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
hey i dunno, why don't you tell me
#11976: Oct 14th 2014 at 2:02:55 PM

I wanted to keep the CMC up because it + infect (which three red creatures do have, along with probably several artifact creatures) + 2x Lava Axe, or enough of any sort of burn = GG; not to mention you could kill indestructible creatures with it. Also, stuff that does damage to each opponent at once could probably break it with infect in multiplayer.

I didn't think of saying to treat it as combat damage; frankly, I don't know if that sort of thing is even done. It'd kinda feel like too much, somehow. :/

EDIT: @Elfive: Doesn't count as combat damage; wouldn't work.

edited 14th Oct '14 2:04:08 PM by Knowlessman

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LeChuck4 Since: Feb, 2010
#11977: Oct 14th 2014 at 2:13:08 PM

I dunno, Fire Servant is just as deadly with two Lava Axes without requiring you to have a creature with infect.

Knowlessman hey i dunno, why don't you tell me from Stupidtown, USA (FL) Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
hey i dunno, why don't you tell me
#11978: Oct 14th 2014 at 2:16:52 PM

[up] Poison counters are a helluva lot harder to get rid of than damage; also, didn't know that guy was a thing (but am not really surprised; surprised it's so cheap, though).

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LeChuck4 Since: Feb, 2010
#11979: Oct 14th 2014 at 2:22:35 PM

They are. However, most decks don't run lifegain. And even those that do usually don't run more than a little bit, meaning that a red deck should be able to very easily finish them off regardless.

And besides, "It's shitbonkers OP with Infect" also applies to stuff like instant pump effects, and yet those are pretty cheap. tongue

edited 14th Oct '14 2:22:57 PM by LeChuck4

CountDorku Official Tesladyne Employee TM from toiling in the Space Mines Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Official Tesladyne Employee TM
#11980: Oct 14th 2014 at 3:02:50 PM

Everything is broken with infect and/or storm.

Thus, I submit:

Venomstorm (5BB)
Sorcery
Put a poison counter on target player.
Storm.

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Tojin Back after a long hiatus from Protectorate SW Headquarters Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Back after a long hiatus
#11981: Oct 14th 2014 at 3:58:17 PM

Dorku why

Why would you do such a thing

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LeChuck4 Since: Feb, 2010
#11982: Oct 14th 2014 at 4:02:27 PM

Where he lives, that is called "Wednesday afternoon weather".

kagescorpionakki Breath of the Sun from Long Ago Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Breath of the Sun
#11983: Oct 14th 2014 at 5:13:29 PM

Actual Lightning Storm - 5RR
Sorcery
~ deals 3 damage to target creature or player.
Storm
It's not a storm without lightning bolts.

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Bigmaddraco Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#11984: Oct 14th 2014 at 5:40:20 PM

Fizzle UUU

Instant

Storm, Storm, Storm

"Dazzle at all this nothing!"

Tojin Back after a long hiatus from Protectorate SW Headquarters Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Back after a long hiatus
#11985: Oct 14th 2014 at 6:10:01 PM

There is absolutely a way to break that into a million tiny shards, I just don't know it yet.

“Not a promise, not an oath, or a malediction or a curse. Inevitable." - Taylor Hebert
Durazno Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#11986: Oct 14th 2014 at 6:12:14 PM

That would be incredible with a Jeskai Prowess deck or even Izzet Kiln Fiend-type creatures.

I approve!

KylerThatch literary masochist Since: Jan, 2001
literary masochist
#11987: Oct 14th 2014 at 6:25:00 PM

Kiln Fiend (and Wee Dragonauts and Gelectrode) triggers when you cast a spell, but not when you copy one. And Storm only makes copies.

Same goes for this Prowess thing, now that I've looked it up.

edited 14th Oct '14 6:27:26 PM by KylerThatch

This "faculty lot" you speak of sounds like a place of great power...
Durazno Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#11988: Oct 14th 2014 at 6:34:04 PM

I am now very annoyed. So two of Izzet's (many) signatures were creatures that are pumped when you cast sorceries/instants and spells that could be replicated many times over, and these two elements didn't synergize in the intuitive way? That's crap. It might be a good thing for balance and overall game design, but it's still crap.

Bigmaddraco Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#11989: Oct 14th 2014 at 6:34:13 PM

Copies aren't cast, they go directly on the stack, thus they don't trigger Prowess.

Edit:[nja]'d

Weird idea for a cycle of Duel lands. They produce hybrid mana, it can pay for either of it's colors, but cannot pay for colorless costs.

edited 14th Oct '14 8:19:18 PM by Bigmaddraco

Durazno Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#11990: Oct 14th 2014 at 8:42:33 PM

I think this one would have just enough space as long as it doesn't need reminder text.


Bionic Monk 2RU
Artifact Creature - Human Monk
First Strike, Prowess
Whenever an instant or sorcery spell you control is copied, Bionic Monk gets +1/+0 until end of turn for each copy that resolves.
Niv-Mizzet expected the monks of Tarkir to be boring and forgettable, but he found their philosophy strangely compelling. The fact that he got some of their number as willing test subjects was just a bonus.
2/2

edited 14th Oct '14 8:43:23 PM by Durazno

kagescorpionakki Breath of the Sun from Long Ago Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Breath of the Sun
#11991: Oct 14th 2014 at 8:52:31 PM

Judge's Folly - 6B
Sorcery
Switch seats with target player in any game you can see from your current seat.
He tried to give me a game loss, but I fortunately had a Lich's Mirror on board.

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#11992: Oct 14th 2014 at 9:49:30 PM

There is absolutely a way to break that into a million tiny shards, I just don't know it yet.

If there was some way to graft subtypes onto instants and sorceries, it would work wonders with almost anything with splice onto arcane.

You are dazzled by my array of very legal documents.
videogmer314 from that one place Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
#11993: Oct 14th 2014 at 10:17:58 PM

There is absolutely a way to break that into a million tiny shards, I just don't know it yet.

Swift Silence. Works even better if you have a Lullmage Mentor on the field.

CountDorku Official Tesladyne Employee TM from toiling in the Space Mines Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#11994: Oct 14th 2014 at 10:18:43 PM

Alternatively, since copies do count as spells for some purposes, Nivmagus Elemental.

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LeChuck4 Since: Feb, 2010
#11995: Oct 14th 2014 at 10:41:29 PM

DAMMIT DORKU I WAS ABOUT TO SUGGEST THAT

kagescorpionakki Breath of the Sun from Long Ago Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Breath of the Sun
#11996: Oct 15th 2014 at 7:32:44 AM

All is Wood - GGGGGGG
Enchantment
All lands are Forests.
There were trees here, once. It is time for them to return.

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Durazno Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#11997: Oct 15th 2014 at 7:34:45 AM

Would you add "in addition to their other types?"

Elfive Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#11998: Oct 15th 2014 at 7:40:09 AM

At that cost I think it's supposed to be scuppering your opponent rather than helping you.

TheSpaceJawa Since: Jun, 2013
#11999: Oct 15th 2014 at 8:08:05 AM

That hardly seems Green to make everything forests and do in their other types in the process.

kagescorpionakki Breath of the Sun from Long Ago Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Breath of the Sun
#12000: Oct 15th 2014 at 8:09:55 AM

[up][up] Correct. If it said "in addition to their other types" it would cost much, much less.

[up] It's kind of a joke based on All is Dust.

Carmen Sandiego - 1UBR
Legendary Creature - Human Rogue
Haste
{U}{R}{R}, {T}: Gain control of target permanent.
{U}{U}{R}, {T}: Gain control of target instant or sorcery spell. You may choose new targets for that spell.
{B}{B}{B}, {T}: Target player reveals his or her hand. You choose a card from it. That player discards that card.
She takes larceny to its logical conclusion.

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