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TamH70 Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#33126: Nov 20th 2014 at 11:56:17 AM

That's why I don't use Boone. There's only room for one certified homicidal maniac in my party, and that's the one I'm in control of.

Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#33127: Nov 20th 2014 at 12:02:22 PM

I never even bothered to consider that since Legion armor blows anyway. In fact, most faction armor sucks.

Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#33128: Nov 20th 2014 at 2:24:04 PM

Yeah, JIP lets you recruit just about anyone. I recruited Cheyenne the dog directly to me, so I know it can turn animals to your side. They say enemies can be turned too, so . . .

Maybe you can build a Deathclaw army? evil grin

My own crew currently includes Sunny Smiles and Cheyenne, the blonde villager you can save during the final Gecko wave of the tutorial, and a random Primm citizen who came with a shotgun. I had a random Good Springs villager with me, but he died to a Powder Ganger wielding an incinerator. R.I.P. Red Shirt. I shall honor your memory by getting better at tactics in this game. Mainly by not letting my people run into battle with a .357 revolver when we should be packing long-guns of some kind instead.

thatguythere47 Since: Jul, 2010
#33129: Nov 20th 2014 at 2:49:06 PM

Yeah apparently it does mean ANYONE but they can't be made immortal. Which I think you can make people essential through the console or just mod their HP to be like 200,000.

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Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#33130: Nov 20th 2014 at 4:03:27 PM

While I want to take care of them, I don't want them to be immortal. It'll hurt when I mess up and get people killed, but it feels too cheap for them to be immortal.

TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Night Clerk of the Apacalypse.
#33131: Nov 20th 2014 at 8:22:55 PM

I am almost certain you can make the forced recruit companions essential through adjusting the various options. Not sure if that changes in hard mode though. I don't use because it is basically a cheat. If you dismiss someone you force recruited they just disappear as far as I know. So be careful recruiting named or quest characters.

Who watches the watchmen?
Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#33132: Nov 20th 2014 at 10:12:26 PM

I don't recruit quest characters til their quests are done.

Fun adventure so far. I killed the Legion in Nipton, and then went on with my business. Sold the loot and went on down the road. I was worried about hit squads, though my party of six should be able to hold them off long enough for me to escape. We found a caravan and hooked up with it. Just in time to face down a Legion force and then a Nightstalker ambush. The caravan's dead, but I've got a nice new pack brahmin to carry my excess loot so my human and dog companions don't have to.

If I were to make one suggestion to the JIP mod makers, it would be to create a "Set position relative to me" command that orders a companion to stay a particular distance, in a particular direction, away from the PC at all times. It'd be great for setting a marching order, where your snipers can act as flanking scouts, and your melee or valued characters can stay on the inside close to you. Right now the party just spreads out in a single file line during travel, and becomes less effective. If I wanted to keep a formation, I'd have to work the party's travel arrangements like a stop motion movie, and that just sucks the fun out of it.

thatguythere47 Since: Jul, 2010
#33133: Nov 21st 2014 at 4:18:21 AM

I think bad AI pathing is built into the game. Even actual caravans seem to play follow the leader more or less.

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Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#33134: Nov 21st 2014 at 5:58:39 AM

They really needed to take more time on this game. But, that's endemic to the industry. Why the fuck bother making a perfect, replayable game that doesn't crash, when you can still get rich using fast deadlines and releasing half finished games before rushing on to the next one?

I get these things on sale, with all the DLC attached. Funny thing is, if they HAD taken the extra time to iron out the bugs and make it a better, more complete game, demand would have remained high enough to keep it from going on sale for far longer than it was. Which wouldn't have necessarily kept me from getting it. Civ V is still in enough demand that even on sale, it's going for 30 bucks. I got NV for practically nothing, DLC and all.

edited 21st Nov '14 6:01:09 AM by Journeyman

CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#33135: Nov 21st 2014 at 6:02:03 AM

Played just fine on my Xbox 360.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#33136: Nov 21st 2014 at 6:07:53 AM

Yeah my 360 version was perfect. Only complaint I can possibly give it is that modding is obviously not going to happen but if I could only pick out a vanilla version of New Vegas I'd go for the 360 over the PC version if I'm honest. Felt much more stable if a bit less pretty.

Oh really when?
TamH70 Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#33137: Nov 21st 2014 at 6:10:41 AM

I, on the other hand, had the PS 3 version.

Single-digit frame rates on the battle for Hoover Dam mission. Crashes. Dialogue out of sync with the actors avatars.

Never touching a Sony console version of a Bethesda game ever again.

I had the Xbox 360 version of Fallout 3 and that worked fine.

Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#33138: Nov 21st 2014 at 6:14:00 AM

Well that's just plain odd then. X Box works fine but the PC doesn't? They're made by the same damn company!

CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#33139: Nov 21st 2014 at 6:14:24 AM

Seems like the PS 3 got the short end of the stick for multi-platform releases in general.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#33140: Nov 21st 2014 at 6:15:41 AM

I heard the PS 3 was a bitch to work with and that the 360 was just hilariously stable and easy to make games for. Seems it's reversed this generation though.

Oh really when?
TamH70 Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#33141: Nov 21st 2014 at 6:54:51 AM

The PS 3, on the other hand, is much easier to fix if it goes wrong as far as its cooling system goes. On the other hand, fixing a blu ray drive problem by swapping a faulty one out and putting another in is a straight up cold bastard. Which I found out when I built my Franken PS 3 out of scraps in a cave when I bought them from Ebay.

thatguythere47 Since: Jul, 2010
#33142: Nov 21st 2014 at 7:31:41 AM

It should be noted the 360 version is very stable after patching. I got that shit day one and it was hilariously broken. Although at this point if you get an obsidian game day one and expect it to work or have the ending attached you're in for a bad time.

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Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#33143: Nov 21st 2014 at 8:18:20 AM

It should be worth noting that if there was any money grubbing to be had with this game, it was on Bethesda's behalf, not Obsidian's.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#33144: Nov 21st 2014 at 8:24:18 AM

Didn't Obsidian get way less money from Bethesda than planned due to a bad review?

CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#33145: Nov 21st 2014 at 8:33:36 AM

They were really close too. But it was specified in the contact, so it's not like they were being screwed over.

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#33146: Nov 21st 2014 at 8:45:43 AM

They were one point away.

Even if it was in the contrct, basing pay on metascore is stupid. And I'd still class it as getting screwed over.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#33147: Nov 21st 2014 at 9:00:39 AM

Hey, that's the way contacts work. If contracts weren't so exacting in their legal terms and all, everybody would be worse off.

edited 21st Nov '14 9:00:58 AM by CassidyTheDevil

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#33148: Nov 21st 2014 at 9:57:55 AM

I doubt that.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Night Clerk of the Apacalypse.
#33149: Nov 21st 2014 at 12:08:24 PM

Fallout 3 for the PC was put out how long ago again? Six years. The OS of choice then was XP and Vista for most pc's. Which means the game was optimized for those OS's. Windows 7 and 8 both are notorious for causing problems in older games across the board not just Fall Out 3. I had no issues running it in general on lower end PC after adjusting my settings for my crap box back then.

Who watches the watchmen?
TamH70 Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#33150: Nov 21st 2014 at 12:57:17 PM

I can run Fallout 3 on my big black battered and beautiful Windows 7 box without too many problems. At least I could a graphics card ago. I'm actually re-downloading and installing the thing just to check that out.


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