World Of Warcraft

GHOSTCRAWLER PROMISED ME A PONY!

Edited to add: What are the chances of having something completely new for the next expansion? Like, a completely new enemy and zone, unrelated to the major story arcs of the Warcraft universe (no Scourge, no Burning Legion, no Old Gods, no Azshara).

That'd be cool, if a little bit controversial.

edited 2nd Aug '15 8:29:03 PM by Cid

What, like The Illuminati or something?

ok so... why isn't grom hellscream dead.

I mean really. "GUL'DAN IS GONE!!!!11!1!" doesn't magically erase "hey up until basically this second I was waging a war of genocide against your people" every orc not affiliated with Vol'Jin's horde or like, durotan, should have been put down.

To put it simply. Draenei are tired of the war and after the shit gul'dan did, the (Non-fel) orcs are tired of it too.

I suspect not shown are the long, long negotiations and peace talks and restitution and all sorts of things to repay for the mess for many years to come.

As an orc, he is not allowed to have to own up to his mistakes

The mere fact that they have to respect other people's lands and not wage constant war is punishment enough apparently. There is no worse punishment for them than having them promise not to invade. Again.

The prospect of not killing something is like anathema.

Regarding the subject the reply above is a direct reply from a Blue who mentioned that he believes the Draenei are "above it". No mention of why The Alliance would have to ignore Nethergarde, Zaela's attempt on Stormwind, why neither them nor The Horde have to just take up the losses suffered in Draenor for no reason.

Meh.

Garrosh is dead, Zaela is dead, Garrosh's and Gul'dan's influences and promises are dead too. The Frostwolves will now probably be in charge and with greater understanding of the other tribes and there is probably nothing left of the warsong thanks to Garrosh's bumbling in Nagrand. The Frostwolves are still allies with the Draenei too.

That is probably enough for blizz to excuse it.

Yeah, lets be honest, at the end of Hellfire the Iron Horde has probably more than decimated. All their real leaders save Garrosh is dead, all their strongholds are broken and both the Frostwolf and the Draenei have very big brothers.

Kicking someone whose already down and willing to surrender is usually a good way of them coming back a generation later.

Btw: Unlikely Expansion idea: "Revenge of the Ogre Empire"

ie, remember that little bit of land at the down left edge of the Draenor Map? Thats another continent. Ruled by the Ogre Empire.

They may be a bit mad that we killed their boss.

Might be a way of explaining the "no punishment" by throwing a Enemy Mine our way.

edited 3rd Aug '15 8:29:12 AM by 3of4

Sounds more like a raid-themed patch.

Dunno, I mean before it became Outland might have been as big as Azeroth.

But yeah, hence "Unlikely"

edited 3rd Aug '15 8:46:40 AM by 3of4

It is not about the physical act of revenge. The sort of revenge done just to "Feel good". It is about offing a single guy whose intentions are very clear and very obvious: he will crush and kill and conquer anything in his way. Just because he cannot do it now does not put a hamper on him doing it later.

It is not "kicking them when they are down". There is no demand of retribution in the form of crippling their economy, it is simply killing a criminal, or putting him away from governance. Not leaving him in charge again, despite knowing fully well his philosophy of "conquer at all costs".

More cooperation is fine, it is great and it is an integral part of the solution. But if your solution for cooperation is Grommash Hellscream, I seriously doubt your capacity to judge character.

Do we know he's left in charge? I haven't yet seen more than the ending cinematic, but for all we know he's just another orc while Durotan is now the big cheese of all orcs on Draenor.

You know. I might be sinning here of the the same problem that afflicted Cato The Elder. But if Hannibal could have destroyed Rome, he would have destroyed Rome. I do not think we should destroy Carthage but we should definitely kill or off the guy who has promise and sworm to become a conqueror of all that stood in his path, and is not known for being the most leveled of minds.

Heck, I'd not even execute him.

I'd simply take him, kick him to Outland and tell him to charge demons until he dies

He's out of our hair and he has an awesome orcish dead. Compromise!

That is still an execution, alas one that seems more "humane" in the orcish way.

Well when I said Execution i meant "head on a block"-style.

But yeah, I figure this way would be way more acceptable for the Orcish culture.

I am just of the mind that being "above it" or "tired of war" is not an excuse to be reckless and irresponsible when handling threats. The guy cannot be trusted. He has proven this above and beyond any reasonable doubt, and yet, he is left alone because reasons.

It is not just revenge, it is not just justice, it is not just coherence. It is the more sane thing to do...

I like the addition that makes the WoW icon in the taskbar flash orange when you get a new message. Very handy. :)

Blizz's web team slipped up. It's better if I quote the whole thing than try to explain it.

That could just mean that they will be letting pandas be deathknights.

Damn, it's hard to be in the web development business when people are crawling your site 24/7/365...

And yes, that is the obvious inference.

edited 3rd Aug '15 12:48:13 PM by Fighteer

Orc Druid is also quite possible considering there is one in the game already.

They called me mad when I named Pandaren just dietary confused monochrome killing machines!

NOW I WILL BE PROVEN RIGHT! BEWARE THE UNDEAD FURRY MENACE!

• ahem*

Oh Blizzard. No matter how hard you try, there is only one thing a company cannot beat: its customers. Sad to hear some people are too impatient, but oh well.

Senior Game Designer Jonathon "Crafticus" LeCraft posted the number "54128169" to a tweet with an announcement concerning Gamescom.

This is the hex color,◊ and when put into a ASCII converter, it gives out the letter "E".

Even more hilarious, This image has the same numbers at the end of the URL.

Also, Community Manager Micah "Bashiok" Whipple has left Blizzard and has joined NCSoft as Senior Content Manager.

Adding in one more thing, cause this is interesting. It looks like there may be cross classing.

edited 3rd Aug '15 1:58:35 PM by tclittle

Well, assuming that we're talking things that start with E, there are two main possibilities that I can think of.

First, we have the (long-wondered-at) Emerald Dream, which could happen. Second, we have ethereals, who fit in with the whole "new playable race" thing people were talking about having possibly discovered.