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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#60501: Aug 19th 2017 at 9:39:07 PM

He's probably stronger than all of them even with the suits anyway, including the dad.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#60502: Aug 19th 2017 at 9:45:53 PM

That doesn't mean the suit wouldn't help.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#60503: Aug 19th 2017 at 9:46:49 PM

What benefeits does it provide though?

I can only think of being able to walk on water.

edited 19th Aug '17 9:47:06 PM by slimcoder

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#60504: Aug 19th 2017 at 9:54:03 PM

Well what do the suits do exactly?

If they boost his strength even higher and provide some extra defence, then there's some value in having one.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#60505: Aug 19th 2017 at 9:55:27 PM

Jinbe's new role will just be the guy that can swim. Sanji will promptly get a new devil fruit power. Jinbe will never leave the boat or its immediate vicinity in case someone falls off.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#60506: Aug 19th 2017 at 9:59:58 PM

Who do you think would win Ace vs. Kin'emon?

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#60507: Aug 19th 2017 at 10:01:29 PM

Really doubt Kinemon is anywhere close to Emperor-Commander level.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#60508: Aug 19th 2017 at 10:07:15 PM

Ace seemed significantly weaker than the other commanders to me, but I'm still going with him.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#60509: Aug 19th 2017 at 10:20:29 PM

I'd actually go with Kin'emon. His style provides a natural advantage and Ace just comes off as really unimpressive all things considered.

edited 19th Aug '17 10:20:48 PM by LSBK

Saiga (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#60510: Aug 20th 2017 at 5:21:58 AM

I didn't have an issue with the Admirals being so strong the time skip wasn't enough to catch up - I just don't know how Oda can justify eventually reaching that level if the timeskip didn't do it.

I really wouldn't like another timeskip given how much importance the first one had.

AegisP Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
#60511: Aug 20th 2017 at 8:13:30 PM

I dont want another one since the quality lowered so much with the first one.

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#60512: Aug 20th 2017 at 10:44:20 PM

Even if you do feel that way, I'm not sure how another Time Skip would make it worse.

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Gilphon Since: Oct, 2009
#60513: Aug 21st 2017 at 12:04:13 AM

Just imagine how ugly Franky would be!

Saiga (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#60514: Aug 21st 2017 at 12:37:12 AM

[lol]

Can Chopper be chibified further?!

edited 21st Aug '17 12:43:24 AM by Saiga

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#60515: Aug 21st 2017 at 1:48:51 AM

Unless we also just want to turn Nami and Robin's waists into one-inch twigs supporting melons bigger than Big Mom's head, this is a terrible idea.

Arachosia from United States Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
#60516: Aug 21st 2017 at 6:25:39 AM

Plus, in-universe, the time skip just started. Look, in a world where Oda's immortal, I could easily see One Piece lasting another 10 years based upon Luffy's gradual but steady progression in strength. But we all know this series doesn't have 10 years, and I think we have to be honest and admit the ending is going to be a little rushed.

I don't see a conceivable way for Luffy to beat Kaido at the moment, but we know he has to do it in order to become Pirate King. Same goes for defeating the other emperors and the admirals. All of this combined with the (obvious) fact that it only took Luffy 3, 4 years max, to become Pirate King while it took Roger 10+ years, at the least, is no doubt going to rub people the wrong way. But I can see Oda chalking it up to "The new generation surpassing the old".

Saiga (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#60517: Aug 21st 2017 at 6:39:59 AM

Luffy doing it in a shorter time isn't a big issue for me. I just don't see how he's going to do it.

Although not seeing how Luffy can get there can be a good thing, as long as Oda manages to stick the landing once he gets to it.

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#60518: Aug 21st 2017 at 7:01:43 AM

I could see all of the Straw Hat Devil Fruit users, at least, getting a Fruit Awakening which boosts them up to end-game level.

Chopper would get a new mostly human form to turn into, smaller than Monster Point but with even more power, and he might figure out a way to combine Awakened form with his others for a whole new set of end-game abilities. Imagine Awakened Monster Point.

Robin's power would now extend to being able to sprout any inanimate object from anything within her sizable radius, and she's creative enough to use that to devastating effect.

Brook... might gain the power to reanimate corpses around himself and exude a wide aura of freezing soul energy.

I'm sure Luffy can figure out some way to use the ability to make his surroundings rubbery, aside from just turning the Thousand Sunny into a bouncy house.

edited 21st Aug '17 7:26:19 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

damage3245 Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#60519: Aug 21st 2017 at 7:54:24 AM

[up] I'm pretty sure Monster Point is Chopper's Awakened form.

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I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#60520: Aug 21st 2017 at 8:10:03 AM

I doubt it. The three Awakened Zoans we've seen were humans with animal Devil Fruits, and yet they were all extremely animalistic, the only human aspect left being they were bipedal. An Awakened Chopper would most likely be almost entirely humanoid, with a few small aspects of raindeer left.

edited 21st Aug '17 8:10:41 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#60521: Aug 21st 2017 at 8:24:37 AM

[up][up][up]I don't think we'll see Brook's Awakening until he's reunited with Laboon, playing his final song and, intentionally or not, summoning up the spirits of the bygone Rumbar Pirates to join in.

For added melodrama, the unknown man sharing a drink with Crocus in that cover story is Yorki, who reunites with Brook as well, passes away during the song, only got his spirit to join in with the band.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#60522: Aug 21st 2017 at 8:27:23 AM

[up] Judging from the digital colored version, the guy drinking with Crocus seems to be Shiki.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#60523: Aug 21st 2017 at 9:39:59 AM

All of this combined with the (obvious) fact that it only took Luffy 3, 4 years max, to become Pirate King while it took Roger 10+ years, at the least, is no doubt going to rub people the wrong way. But I can see Oda chalking it up to "The new generation surpassing the old".

It took Roger a lot more than 10 years. It seems like he started his pirating career when he was Luffy's age/early 20s and he only became the Pirate King in his late 40s early 50s. It was inevitable that Luffy was going to do it faster than that, the problem is making it believable. Just doing it faster doesn't count as the "young surpassing the old" if the reasons for it are bullshit.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#60524: Aug 21st 2017 at 10:25:25 AM

Part of the reason for Roger's length, as I recall, was that he was just doing everyday piracy and only upon the discovery of the True History did he start over from scratch aiming for Raftel. That part, I'm remembering, he did within a year.

Luffy meanwhile, has basically had Raftel as his goal from the start whether he knew it it not and has been sailing straight there, with clues left behind by others and with Robin as a guide.

edited 21st Aug '17 12:15:06 PM by sgamer82

AegisP Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
#60525: Aug 21st 2017 at 3:56:36 PM

sgamer...that was sooooooo beautiful. I hope it happens! I doubt it though.

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