One Piece

I have a feeling that was just for the sake of preserving the impact of the scene. If Shanks showed up to Marineford with his crew all beaten and bloodied, that would have taken the wind out of his whole "I'll be your opponent" speech.

It doesn't seem like it would be possible to talk Kaido down, and it would sort of diminish Kaido's threat if Shanks could actually get a flawless victory against him. The only other option I can think of is if perhaps luck was on Shanks' side, ala Roger vs. Shiki.

Maybe it was just a really small-scale clash and conversation over tea?

I was thinking more about them coming to some sort of agreement that we'll find out about later.

Kaido, trying to die as always, took a dive.

I'm finding myself annoyed by Luffy's convenient immunity to poison.

Also, was that all Magellan will end up being used for?

Is he really relevant anymore?

Why? It was actually a logical outcome of his surviving extreme poisoning and a clever callback. And of course Magellan isn't relevant anymore, unless after he left Impel Down he went to wander the Grand Line. There are plenty of other characters they've run across before that were never seen or heard from again, why should Magellan be any different?

edited 3rd May '16 11:44:14 PM by danime91

The poison immunity has come into play maybe three times so far in the last 200-ish chapters since the timeskip, all for excruciatingly minor plot points. That's one of the nitpickiest nitpicks one could make about this series.

It's more subtle and natural, which is nice. I've seen too many movies where as soon as a character mentions some special talent or ability that they have, I know it's gonna come into play at the climax of the movie.

edited 3rd May '16 11:51:35 PM by danime91

It has come into play in every arc since the timeskip. How often did Luffy get poisoned pre-timeskip? Does Oda think we forget the immunity? Did Magellan have poison powers just to set up Luffy being immune for some future fight?

Luffy was poisoned by Croc and almost got poisoned by Kreig. Can't think of anyone else off the top of my head.

It's been largely inconsequential, though. I'd probably be annoyed too if Luffy's poison immunity was a major saving grace in the climax of each arc, but it hasn't been used for anything close to that. He survived an octopus contact venom in a fight that served no consequence to the plot; he survived Caesar's poison gas, which was only impressive for a second before Caesar used the rest of tricks to stave Luffy off; and he barely survived eating the poisonous flesh of a fish, which was still bad enough for him that Worf Had the Flu will probably be in effect for the upcoming encounter with Germa.

This last event wasn't even a plot convenience. Oda needed to put Luffy out of commission for a bit, so he KO'd Luffy with poison. If he didn't acknowledge Luffy's immunity in that moment by making it clear that the fish had a super-instant-death poison, readers would be confused as to why Luffy was affected by the poison at all.

edited 4th May '16 2:16:04 AM by MileRun

Also, I think the point of this scene wasn't to showcase Luffy's immunity but to showcase just how much he's useless without his crew (Sanji, in this case). If Luffy hadn't had this random immunity, the future King of Pirates would have dropped dead from fishing. That's worse than just having him touch a paralyzing fish.

edited 4th May '16 2:23:27 AM by Cozzer

So what do you want from it?

edited 4th May '16 2:25:50 AM by KarkatTheDalek

I don't have anything specific plot ideas in mind that I want to come from Luffy's immunity. I'm just saying that it hasn't been fully utilized yet, so I don't understand how one could think it's been too convenient or too prominent thus far.

Ah, okay. I thought you were complaining about it.

I imagine Oda's building up for something here, although maybe he could stand to bring it up a little less, so that if it does come back in a big way, the moment has more impact.

I feel like Magellan would still generally beat any Luffy other than Gear 4.

Barring haki, Magellan's got a natural advantage against anyone except Akainu and maybe Ace/Sabo.

And Mr 3, unless he gets serious

I think Kizaru's Pica Pica no Mi could probably fry Magellan without much risk to the user. Enel's Goro Goro no Mi can be effective too, especially since Enel can back it up with Mantra.

Of course, the most effective fruit against Magellan would probably be the Lapu Lapu no Mi.

I saw Luffy's poisoning for what it was: a Deus Exit Machina.

Making sure Luffy is unavailable allows the others to fight while at the same time making sure they could sneak into Big Mom's base without Luffy giving them away.

edited 4th May '16 11:54:57 AM by tclittle

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That makes sense.

Luffy is completely incapable of stealth, so taking him out of the picture for a bit to let others shine is a good idea.

Also the fact Luffy is by far the strongest member on the team. He'd make things to easy.

Well, he'd make things too easy and too hard.

Easy due to his power, hard due to...well... being Luffy.

Lets us all remember how he handled the Impel Down infiltration. Sure it worked, but still.

"Lapu Lapu no Mi" - I don't get it.