Stargate Universe

All they would have to do is provide the schematics. Earth has shown itself to be fairly quick in learning how to duplicate alien tech (control crystals, for starters). Even if the materials are somewhat different, for the most part the designs shouldn't need to be altered for Earth production given their access to offworld mineral mines.

I was referring mostly to manufacturing capability. We don't exactly have nanotechnology available for large scale production (unless I missed something). The best analogy I can think of would be to try and get a smith to produce an integrated circuit. And I do seem to recall that replicators are made of some technology based on physics that Carter had no idea about.

Nanotech isn't shown to be a widespread manufacturing technique (the Ori had untrained villagers build interstellar warships, for christ's sake, that's just unbelievable). More primitive methods work for small production like Earth needs.

Well, it's not like this is a large scale operation. There's only about six ships so far, and a decent fleet of F-302s (god only knows how they are hiding this). Production of components we know is done through division of labor to civilian contractors. Once they get the parts they're slapped together. They probably have manufacturing facilities off-world for the special stuff.

If the Stargate went public, mass-production would definitely be an issue, but for now they can probably get by without terribly sophisticated methods.

If it were me, I'd assign various patents of new technology to various individuals (or just claim it as military research). Hm, this technology is profitable, therefor we should keep giving them money. Feeding the golden goose and all that. Is that a trope?

Cut Lex Luthor a Check, I think would apply, or Reed Richards Is Useless even though it's not a money trope. Somewhere in the middle.

Come to think of it, there was that one episode where they demonstrated an Earth-made particle cannon at a public science conference. Maybe they're already leaking products onto the market and just not being too vocal about it.

edited 17th Dec '09 12:50:40 AM by TheRoguePenguin

F-302s (god only knows how they are hiding this).

The funny thing about it isn't so much that they can build these (the cost and production would be roughly on part with the F-22 Raptor, and if you give it the same "black budget" as what happened with the Stealth Bomber/Fighter, it could easily be hidden from the public), so much as they managed to start building them in about 4 years.

They could also be "public", depending on what their propulsion method is. You just don't mention they can go into space.

The real issue is how quickly they were built. The F-302 is a completely human made vehicle. It's taken the F-22 Raptor nearly 20 years to go from design to build to IOC (operation capacity), and they only have about 160 of them built.

So, I bought the first episode off iTunes thinking it sounded good. I have not watched anything from Stargate before. I liked the first episode and was wondering if the show stays good or if it nosedived in quality in later episodes.

Quality is a relative term, isn't it?

I mean, I can list off various 1st season TV shows that are 4+ seasons long that I hated episodes 4-9, despite loving the season (and/or series) as a whole.

But, to answer your question, since you haven't seen any other Stargate series, this is probably the best generality: If you prefer action driven episodes the answer is no. If you prefer story driven episodes the answer might be yes, depending on the genre you prefer.

I don't think you're looking at the F22 design time right. I know the lectures Lockheed holds here mention that most of the development time was spent developing the tech to build it. They built the F301 despite it being an epic failure they probably just ripped half the design from it. They seem to have similar flight capabilities. Although I think the weapon system is completely different. I know they started with missiles, did they ever get an effective beam weapon for them?

No, they never did. Staff cannons are less effective than missiles anyway, and I don't think they've been able to do anything like miniaturize Asgard beam weapons yet.

Well, the issue is putting a gun on it. We tried the whole "no gun only missiles" thing before and it backfired spectacularly. Did they add a rail gun or something?

The Stargate wiki says here that they have two railguns in the nose, although I don't recall ever seeing them used on screen, and the source is a technical specs poster from Quantum Mecanix, so I would say it's of dubious canonocity.

Also, since I went on a Wiki Crawl, I found this for those who were interested in the shields and they functions.

Hmmm. Perhaps...the Sufficiently Advanced Alien race we're going to encounter will be...the Furlings??

We can hope...

Also, at the risk of dredging up something long discussed and over, the "Point of Origin" thing really should be counted as a Wall Banger - Not only would the 'Earth' sun-over-pyramid symbol not be on any gate other than Earth's "Alpha" (Giza) Gate - which, remember, kind of got blowed up, thank you Anubis - but the Alpha Gate was, as I recall, brought to Earth later by the Goa'uld...

...meaning that the Point of Origin for dialing Destiny using the "nine chevron code" would likely be the "sun over a plain" (as it looked to me) from the Beta (Antarctic) Gate.

...which still wouldn't be found on the gate at Icarus, which, as I recall, was mentioned as having been moved there from P 3 R-NDM.

(Of course, this also means from Season 6 of Stargate SG 1 onwards, the wrong POA was consistently shown, most likely explained as a case of production costs making them not want to actually film new stock footage to show the dialing, letting the fans fill in what's ''actually'' happenning.

Actually, the Antarctic gate was the one that engmploded. One of the Replicator stories had them beam up the Giza one, which then crashed into the ocean and got retrieved by the Russians.

The Air Force continued with the original gate until Anubis boomed it, then they loaned in the Giza gate again.

Apparently, they are casting a new recurring villain role for Season Two. Sounds good to me. Thoughts anyone?

1. So why did they ditch Rush on a deserted planet if they're clearly NOT going to be killing him off? What's the purpose? Yeah, yeah, he's a main character for the entire season which only serves to underscore the point. There were better ways to make a midseason cliffhanger. 2. Wasn't the whole point of SGU to have nonhuman aliens? 3. The Lucian Alliance? Really? And how do they propose to get anybody from the Lucian Alliance out to the Destiny?

1: They stranded him so Rush can pull a Big Damn Heroes moment and remind the crew (or rather Young) why they all need him if they want to survive the month.

2: There will be non-human aliens, but the Lucian Alliance plot thread from the start also needs to be resolved. It probably won't stick around forever.

3: If they know the address, they can find a way to power the gate. Maybe they'll reverse engineer that shield trick Destiny tried.

edited 19th Feb '10 11:20:39 PM by TheRoguePenguin

Or they might somehow get hold of Ancient communication stones and swap bodies with someone on the Destiny. That, I think, would probably be the most interesting use they could be put to.

@Tangent128: Ahh, I'd forgotten that. Or more precisely, not entirely remembered...

Doesn't change the fact the "Ninth Chevron Code" would use the o| (<- turn it on its side) point of origin instead of the o< , though.

Oh man, the German dub of this might just be the worst dub I've ever heard.

"Doesn't change the fact the "Ninth Chevron Code" would use the o| (<- turn it on its side) point of origin instead of the o< , though."

Considering that the system is updated regularly, it may treat both points as valid Earth coordinates.

On another topic, new trailer.

I really liked the way the new alien enemy got introduced. Like, we just see one walk by really fast and can only react with "wtf was that?" Then the only thing they say is "surrender." Scary.

Yes I liked that too. And Young is really screwing the pooch lately isn't he?

Wait, they started up again? FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-