Stargate Universe

I guess my patience with this Lost-style narrative is just waning.

One more thing... Why aren't Rodney and Samantha simply living on the ship using the ancient device, working with Rush to repair it?

I mean, seriously. Think about it.

Well, at the moment they're a little preoccupied with surviving- though now that oxygen and energy are covered, once they've dealt with food they shouldn't have an excuse to not work on getting control of the ship. Starting with the countdown. (Did the Ancients never hear of a snooze button?)

...actually, now that they have full power, why don't they try dialing Earth?

Coz the episode ended, maybe next week.

I understand the problems some people are having with the apparent plot holes in the series (one of which is absolutely unresolvable as far as I can tell, see below) but despite that, I'm still willing to see where they go with this. I can believe that the ship's shield can withstand a solar corona on the basis that the thing is a one-of-a-kind supership. I mean, not even Atlantis had FTL like the Destiny does (wormhole drive notwithstanding). And who knows, it could be hand waved away as being good for star-dipping only, like some kind of super heat shield.

About that one plot hole that's really nagging at me: How the HELL did the gate at Icarus Base have Earth's point of origin symbol on it, as well as nonsensically using the Orion symbol as a normal point of origin? I mean, I GUESS it could be said it's because it's a special gate, but that wouldn't explain why they used Orion instead of the obvious point of origin symbol. It should be pretty obvious that the Earth symbol was on there for a reason.

I think what he means is that the destination icon tends to be roughly unique to the planet the stargate is on. If you bring a stargate from another planet to Earth, then shut down the Earth's stargate, that new stargate becomes the "Earth" stargate, using the Earth icon.

They must have Samantha Cartered the special gate so that it works as if it were on Earth while offworld. That rock probably didn't have its own gate in the first place, so that might help.

Anyway, I finally saw "Light" last night, and while I simply don't buy that the Destiny can plausibly survive going into a star or the ridiculous slingshot finale, I did like the Colonel's lottery plan, and all acting relating to it. Ming Na's weakness was particularly interesting.

But it was a CMOA!

Which reminds me of Elite, by the way. Slingshot moves in space travel have been done for over 30 years.

Yea, the slingshot thing is such a basic maneuver in spaceflight.

Shirley, the Icarus gate must have been one of the earliest, if not the first, gate made. It's part of the program they used to seed other world's with gates, it is the only one with a particular design component that managed to become The Artifact for all other gates (the ninth chevron) and I guess that this might explain some of why it has Earth as the home address- it was made before the gates that would be seeded were made and thus didn't have that "adapt home adress" bit of code design put into it.

Earth's view of the constellations does end up on all of the Stargates, right? And it's where the only surviving descendants of the Ancients were found in this galaxy, yes? All others come from the Goa'uld extraction? It's where the path to Atlantis was so I assume that it is a Big Deal as a local for the creation of the Stargates. It could be that the gate was made on Earth and then they discovered that they would have to move it to the planet to get the suffiencient power. Maybe they just didn't have a reason to set the home address to anything other than Earth because this is a ninth chevron entry so the thing that makes the seventh chevron set to each planet isn't going to necessarily apply and here what it truly represents is the "home" location- the point to which Destiny is travelling.

That they did a slingshot was not the ridiculous thing; it's that they could do a slingshot and manage to land on the shuttle pad of a vessel ramping up to light speed so perfectly that they hit the docking clamps that made me laugh.

What exactly is the problem there? The easy with which they aligned themselves or the delta-v that appeared relatively small?

I'd suspect the latter, now I've looked up what "delta-v" actually is.

edited 31st Oct '09 10:07:27 AM by Silent Hunter

So, SGU is scoring one for one on aliens that don't look like humans. How long can we expect this to continue?

Liked the newest episode as well.

BlackGuyver is awesome.

edited 1st Nov '09 3:18:54 PM by Smokie

@Treblain: Word of God says at least the whole first season.

edited 1st Nov '09 3:13:36 PM by Balesirion

The sling shot maneuver "at near light speed" through the gas giant is what threw me. Either someone needs to change that on the page or we've got some You Fail Physics Forever. Slamming into a gas at a fraction of light speed would cause it to explode no matter the density.

If you like we can take the whole Earth was important to the ancients thing and extrapolate that the ancients just assigned Milky Way the Earth symbol.

I'm still upset about the lack of Gatling rail gun as I put on a few pages.

Hey, remember, they can fly into the sun.

You know what bugs me? When the episode starts and they have this flashback thing for retards, they always say that the Destiny may be the most important discovery since the Stargate itself.

Bullshit. Not only can the Destiny itself not be compared to the importance of the frikkin' Stargate, they are totally forgetting Atlantis.

Destiny is the key to figuring out how the stargate network was and is being propagated across the universe. If they discover exactly how it works, they could potentially locate other ships like it, find coordinates for other galaxies' gate networks, and gain access to new technology and sources of energy. It's probably not as advanced as Atlantis technologically, but there are other values to it.

STARGATE UNIVERSE

Huh. Well I guess that settles it.

This "let's summarize the entire premise of the show in a monologue that isn't part of the opening credits" thing is starting to bug me. Do we need to be told that our cast is lost in an Ancient starship way the heck in deep space as an opening monologue. That's the premise of the show and will be discussed in the episode itself.

How fast does that sand drink water, anyway? Furthermore, even if you assume that the water is being converted directly into energy to maintain flight, where is this water being stored? It's sand! A fraction of a drop at a time. Water can't be used up at that rate unless the sand stays above the water at all times.

So this guy carried his own supplies from Earth and somehow thinks it's okay that he keeps this for himself. Given the crew's conditions, I call that court-martial behavior. People are living on flour and water gruel here!

Nobody's concerned that they may still have a few grains floating around?

And yeah, I wish there was a proper theme sequence, instead of "just throw up the title and be done with it".

Re: "Earth"

I just saw the teaser at this point, but I must say...

Why pull the "we could get home!" card this soon? Did this work when Star Trek Voyager did it? Come on! We know what the premise of the show is, so wait a season before this kind of nonsense, please!

Actually, I'm glad that they seem to be trying to address the more prominent bits of Fridge Logic this early. I can't have been the only one wondering how the "fueled by stars" and "not enough power to dial home" things fit together.

(Though, mysterious-bureaucrat mentioned work on a low-power way to make the connection... not sure how that would develop.)