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Cross Since: Aug, 2012
#72476: Dec 16th 2017 at 7:52:21 AM

[up][up] Wasn't the plan to "teach" a young Korra so she would follow their ideals?

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#72477: Dec 16th 2017 at 9:04:01 AM

That's not exactly that much better.

"No, we weren't going to assassinate a toddler! We were going to kidnap her, indoctrinate her into our ideals, and then use her to destroy all governments on the planet, THEN we were going to have her kill herself."

Cross Since: Aug, 2012
#72478: Dec 16th 2017 at 9:41:15 AM

Well, it's better in the sense it would be a smarter play than killing her off immediately. And depending on how entrenched Korra is keeping her alive as long as possible would be more beneficial.

DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#72479: Dec 16th 2017 at 5:46:46 PM

I think Zaheer's original plan was to get Korra to release Vaatu and open the spirit portals to return the world to the state it was in before Wan separated the physical world from the Spirit World.

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#72480: Dec 16th 2017 at 6:33:26 PM

That doesn't make sense. That world was even more stratified than the current Avatar world.

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DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#72481: Dec 16th 2017 at 6:51:43 PM

Zaheer says that Wan separating the Spirit World and the physical world was a mistake. It's implied that he wants to reunite the two worlds and then destroy the Avatar. His plan was basically Unalaq's plan, but without the Dark Avatar part. Presumably he doesn't want to reimpose the social order of that era, though, if he even knows about it.

edited 16th Dec '17 6:52:11 PM by DrDougsh

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#72482: Dec 16th 2017 at 7:03:35 PM

In fairness, the proto-Air Nomads seemed to be doing pretty well in that world. Considering Zaheer's fanboyism, I wouldn't be surprised if that's what he was expecting would be the result.

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#72483: Dec 17th 2017 at 2:32:15 AM

Plus, no one (except Korra) even knows what the world was like back then. All records were lost.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#72484: Dec 17th 2017 at 9:24:42 AM

The main issue back then was the spirits being too powerful for humans to have any chance at survival. Now that benders are a thing and technology has advanced significantly it would be a lot easier for people to survive. His plan is still stupid though since it would require keeping the Red Lotus around as the new government.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#72485: Dec 17th 2017 at 8:46:19 PM

Even with benders and technology, there's still the issue of the spirits being assholes to the humans. All that has changed is that humans can now better defend themselves but the antagonism from spirits still remains hence why removing the barriers was a stupid idea.

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#72486: Dec 17th 2017 at 9:02:18 PM

Spirits can possess and manipulate technological devices, so arguably Humanity is in just as bad or worse a position in the modern day than they were back during Wan's time.

How Korra thought re-opening the Spirit Portals was a good idea blows my fucking mind. It's like she didn't think about it at all.

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#72487: Dec 17th 2017 at 9:07:56 PM

Have you met her.

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DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#72488: Dec 18th 2017 at 11:25:46 AM

So I picked up and read the first part of Turf. It's not bad, though it ends just as it seems about to get interesting. I do feel these stories would be better if they just released them as graphic novels you could read in one go.

The spirits continue to be fucking douchebags, though. I do hope this comic addresses that in some way.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#72489: Dec 18th 2017 at 11:44:01 AM

[up]They do, they are bundled in library editions, which come with notes from the creators, too.

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TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#72490: Dec 18th 2017 at 11:46:33 AM

Yeah, after each of the three parts comes out, they usually release a compilation book combining them into a single graphic novel. We own the compilations for The Promise and The Search.

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DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#72491: Dec 18th 2017 at 11:46:48 AM

I know, but I'd prefer it if they'd just release them as such right away. Or at least release the collected edition in a cheaper, smaller format instead of these huge expensive collectors' tomes.

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#72492: Dec 18th 2017 at 12:01:27 PM

Writing for the Trade strikes again.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
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#72493: Dec 18th 2017 at 12:09:26 PM

You could always just not buy it until the trade comes out.

edited 18th Dec '17 12:09:36 PM by TobiasDrake

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DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#72494: Dec 18th 2017 at 12:18:41 PM

The trades are really big and expensive, like I said. I feel like them being re-published from a three-part miniseries instead of just printed and marketed as a graphic novel from the beginning leads to pressure to make these books a lot bigger and fancier than they need to be.

edited 18th Dec '17 12:22:50 PM by DrDougsh

Joesolo Indiana Solo Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#72495: Apr 4th 2018 at 5:29:36 PM

The trades are nice but they're around $40 a piece.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#72496: Apr 4th 2018 at 5:37:13 PM

I love the library editions, as they also give some background info.

Optimism is a duty.
Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#72497: Apr 15th 2018 at 2:51:54 PM

Heh, President Moon.

The Turf is nice, although the pacing reminds me a lot of ATLA's, especially if it is split in three tomes as it looks it will be. One - setup, creating germs of conflict. Two - everything goes to hell, ends on a sour note. Three - solving things? I hope at least.

I get the feeling Tome 3 is going to see one epic consequence of Bullying a Dragon. Kuvira at least had the excuse of not knowing Toph was still around to wreck her army when she threatened her kids, but kidnapping the girlfriend of the most short-tempered Avatar ever? That's going to hurt.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#72498: Apr 16th 2018 at 3:53:54 PM

I'll never get tired of watching this fight. I think this is my favorite in the series. Her "bobbing and weaving" here is just the best.

But what gets me is that she picks a fight with an opponent she knows full well is trained in three other fighting styles and could enter a Berserker Rage at any given moment - a Super Mode known for causing apocalyptic levels of destruction almost every time it's been unleashed.

And Kuvira's like, "bring it, everything ya got."

The ovaries on this chick, I swear.

edited 16th Apr '18 4:44:57 PM by Soble

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Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
Serial Procrastinator
#72499: Apr 16th 2018 at 3:59:14 PM

Kuvira just completely obliterated her.

The common complaint that Korra can't really win her own fights is something that I more or less have to concede with in this series. Though she often has extenuating circumstances it is kind of repetitive to see the shit get kicked out of her so often.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"
DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#72500: Apr 16th 2018 at 4:00:56 PM

It's implied that Kuvira knew Korra was in poor shape since being poisoned, explaining her confidence.


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