Team Fortress 2

Red Tape Recorder is stupidly broken.

Red Tape Recorder reverts a level 3 sentry to a level 1 sentry in remarkably fast time, and disables it while doing so. It's only because the animations are short and thus take less time to reverse.

The only thing the RTR doesn't do as well as the normal sapper is that a dispenser can continue to heal up untilthe moment it completely packs up, I think. But that's very minor compared to its ability to shut down sentries.

So, yes, it's stupidly broken.

RTR is very VERY good.

you do FAR more damage to a fully upgraded sentry than the regular does, if you measure in metal. it takes like, 3 seconds or something to drop a level 3 sentry to level 1.

In fact, I've generally stopped using a level 3 sentry and switched to mini-sentrying because of the RTR.

it takes longer to KILL sentries, which can be problematic if you have lots of engies on a team, but it is still very, VERY good at drastically reducing the threat of engineer buildings

I refuse to use it. I have a strange sapper, which helps, but there are times where the RTR would help so much, but I won't use it.

Because even I have depths to which I won't sink.

edited 11th Feb '13 1:08:36 PM by Funden

I sincerely doubt that. Everything in game is fair game.

Holy Shit, Boston Basher plus crit a cola.....

Fish + cola = fish and crits. Best combo, ever.

The Red Tape Recorder? It is such a stupidly designed weapon. I mean, the concept of a Sapper that can't destroy buildings but weaken them for your teammates to take down is a neat idea, but the way the RTR goes about it is so aggravating. With the Sapper, an Engineer can walk a bit away from his buildings, and can walk back to save them if they're being sapped. The RTR? If the Engineer isn't RIGHT NEXT TO HIS BUILDINGS, they will get de-leveled! And it can still happen even if the Engineer is right there. Seriously, what was Valve thinking when they made the Sleeping Dogs weapons? Let's give the Heavy a minigun which summons a ring of FIRE around him as long as he has the minigun revved up for no good reason!

edited 11th Feb '13 1:43:03 PM by Marioguy128

Do you actually have a point about the Huo Long, because all you did was describe the thing.

Well I wouldn't say the Huo Long is broken or annoying like the RTR, but I would say that weapon had no real thought put into it whatsoever. First of all, why does it summon a ring of fire around him? To counter Spies or something? It's not something the Heavy really needs. I mean, he can avoid getting killed by Spies too often by just simply being aware and not having too much tunnel vision. So instead of focusing on thinking and not being surprised, the ring of fire does that for him. Second of all, it eats through ammo like crazy, so it's not even that good to use... Unless the Heavy is on an attacking team in Payload, in which he can sit on the cart and keep his ring of fire as long as he pleases. Also, he can pretty much light any Spy on fire by pure accident, without thinking whatsoever. Things like that does not scream good game design to me.

edited 11th Feb '13 1:53:59 PM by Marioguy128

ugh, setting TF 2 aside, at least for a few hours. the last payload map went back and forth for a bit, then a final shuffle and nothing my team did could even slow them the fuck down. they just sat seven on the cart like we weren't even there, butchering us.

I find the Huo-Long Heater incredibly useful for Leeroy Jenkins-ing with a Medic Buddy.

yeah, the fire ring does a lot of DPS if you use it to firebomb enemy groups.

amidst all this RTR hate, I still freaking love the thing, I don't even use the normal sapper anymore.

edited 11th Feb '13 3:31:32 PM by Lanceleoghauni

The Huo-Long Heater seemed quite useless to me, but that's in part because I all too often play sniper!Heavy, raining bullets at people from long distances. Mostly because getting myself in the fray gets me kaput very quickly.

I don't play heavy-type classes pretty much ever.

my current top 3 classes (time spent) are in order: Engi, Spy, Medic.

Soldier is glorious when you begin rocket jumping.

I really dislike soldier. I have no idea how to rocket jump, so I can never move above a crawl.

Rocket Jumping has been something I've been putting off for the longest time and I regret doing that since I've discovered how amazing they are. Still not able to chain jumps to pull off insane stunts on a consistent basis but they are immensely fun to do and I always end up with a smile on my face whenever I kill somebody with the Market Gardener.

Also, pyro. Pyro is my new favorite class, tbqh.

And heavy. Heavy is actually fun.

I agree with your stance on Pie Row.

I only have 2 kills on my Mantreads, but no kills on my Market Gardener. :(

Woo, I've been trying out Engie, and I love the Widowmaker!

widowmaker is, quite frankly, the shit.

as long as you can aim you never need to stop shooting!

Pyro IS freaking awesome, when I'm getting zerged, nothing says "fuck you" like an instantly full phlogistonator thanks to grouping, and the ensuing CONFLAGRATION OF CRITS.

I think only about 5 kills on my Strange Market Gardner were criticals. All of the others were from just smacking Snipers.