Because I just got it off Steam and I want to talk about it with Tropers. Also we don't have a general thread, just a match thread.

I'm enjoying Pyro, but I don't know if it's because I legitimately enjoy him or because I'm new and they're an easy class to get started with. But hearing "Foiyah! Foiyah! Foiyah!" is hilarious.

I still need this game and have no way to get it myself.

D:

I just got it too. Looking forward to it. I've never tried sniping player-controlled characters before.

Playing sniper is fun!

I want to play it, but we don't have it and my bro says it probably wouldn't run on our computers anyway. I'd so be Engineer.

Pyro is my homeboy. I'm also a fan of the Spy.

Still trying to master airblasting (though on a good day, I can reflect-kill a Huntsman Sniper with his own arrow) and the fine art of ambushing someone, setting them on fire, and switching to the Axtinguisher for the kill before they see me.

I'm getting good with the sniper fast. On well there were a bunch of noob snipers at the battlements trying to hit me while I was on the roof, and I dominated every. Single. One. It was epic.

Scout is hard to master, but I'm getting it.

edited 4th Jul '10 6:50:13 PM by rumetzen

TEAM FORTRESS 2 IS CREDIT TO GAMING!

Can't wait for the Engineer update. Hope'll make him more interesting so I'll play him more :-)

Wondering just what the scoped shotgun from the Mac trailer and the Golden Wrench in the system files are for...

^That's not a scope. It's something else.

I have no clue what it's supposed to be though.

edited 4th Jul '10 7:03:47 PM by AweStriker

Point is, it is a thing. A thing that shotguns do not usually have. It has piqued my curiosity.

Gold wrench is awesome.

Golden wrench (technically Australium) turns kills into gold which give you metal.

I'm just beginning to use airblast. Used it to clear a demo's grenades from the sewer. But I'm still probably going to use the backburner when I get it.

Shotgun or flare gun?

What's a good newbie class?

Pyro and Heavy, I think. Maybe Medic.

I like to go with flaregun, just because it has really good range, and it crits if your target is already aflame.

And yeah, Heavy is designed to be really noob-friendly. Pyro has a pretty easy learning curve, so he's good too. Next step up would probably be Medic or Engie, I'd say. Maybe Soldier.

Soldiers are the most conventional FPS class (even Snipers have things like Jarate) so I would go with them if you have prior experience in the genre.

They're all newbie-friendly classes except Spy and maybe Scout. Engineer probably has the most gradual learning curve though, as long as you can set up a sentry you'll be at least a little bit useful to your team.

Pyro is not noob-friendly. I mean, yes, you can master the basic tactics and flamethrower use pretty quickly, but to really be credit to team as a Pyro you need to master airblasting, projectile reflection, spy-checking, accurately firing flares over long distances, puff-and-sting, timing, tactics... There's a perception that playing pyro is 'easy, ' but really, it's only easy to play as a suicidal shock troop, which isn't very effective. Medic is probably the class a new player can most easily be helpful with. Demoman is probably the hardest class to master in terms of simple FPS skills; scout also requires a lot of aiming finesse. You can be effective as a soldier with less practice, but to really shine, you need to get really good with rockets. The sniper is fairly straightforward if you can aim straight; the spy is so full of nuance and counter-intuitive details that it takes a while to learn. Engineer play is very dependant on knowing map layout.

edited 4th Jul '10 8:39:55 PM by BonSequitur

Whoa, hoss, I'm not talking about W+M1 here. I'm just saying that a completely new player will have an easier time getting kills and contributing with a Pyro than with, say, a Demoman or something.

Not exactly. Engies will get the gist of where to place their sentries pretty quickly.

I hate it when the Scout I kept killing with the sentry in the main entrance (yes, I'm that evil) of 2fort goes to a Spy and saps my sentry, and then gets maimed by someone else for being obvious in the base.

On a side note, I suck at this game if I'm not annoying people by being an Engie, and I need to play it more, but I'm busy whoring on my NX points I got from my subscription to Net Flix on Combat Arms.

And people seriously need to stop the Heavy/Medic team-up before they reach our side of the fort and go uber. It's happened at least twice literally the past five times I've played TF 2.

Serves him right for not just using the pipes.

Engie is pretty interesting, and I might use him; problem is I get frustrated when my buildings are destroyed and I'm not good with such fragile characters.

I'm not a huge fan of playing Engie, just because unless you wanna play Ninjaneer or Combat Engie, it devolves into picking one of the predetermined Engie locales, building a nest, and then sitting there with M1 held down forever.

A couple years ago, I'd go to weekly matches on this one server, and when the rotation hit Turbine, I'd just set up an Engie nest with some other guy and do my Japanese homework while I waited for something interesting to happen. XD

I would say Heavy is the easiest to play as. Seven kills in one life on my first try!

Dollar to doughnuts, that it's sentry related. The new shotgun will, according to the steam forums probably is:

1. a laser pointer, so you can take potshots with your sentry.

or

2. the fabled instant level-1 sentry, to buy you some time to move your engie-nest forward.