Trans Siberian Anarchestra (it/they)
It's Faction Paradox, silly, it will both darken and lighten your mindscape simultaneously!
The Revolution Will Not Be Tropeable
Nine thousand nine hundred eighty-two reasons.
If I had a time machine that could go back in time, I uh, wouldn't use it.
Ever.
Anyone else with me on this?
Mostly does better things now. Key word mostly. Writes things, but you'll never find them. Or you can ask.
Funny but not helpful
Time Machines are totally for kidnapping dinosaurs to open up a real Jurassic Park, duh.
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Enlighten and darken my mind simultaneously no more!
Problem Child
Depends.
Some stories have the traveller out of sync with reality, an impartial observer who can never interfere one way or the other. There is still of course the risk of what this knowledge will do to the present, but still, the most obvious paradoxes are mitigated.
What if there’s no better word than just not saying anything?
Trans Siberian Anarchestra (it/they)
With gr8 power comes nothing that could ever possi8ly go wrong!
BUT... your mindscape has never known the light/darkness of Faction Paradox. You must be misremembering. B]
Absolutely no relation to NLK
It depends on what type of time travel we're talking about here. If it's a split timeline deal, then I'd do the thing, kill Hitler and such. If we're operating on grandfather paradox or You Already Changed the Past, though, I'm leaving it the fuck alone.
Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
Trans Siberian Anarchestra (it/they)
O8viously we're using Homestuck rules.
The Revolution Will Not Be Tropeable
Funny but not helpful
The tin cans on a string burglar alarm does not lie!
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Nine thousand nine hundred eighty-two reasons.
I wouldn't trust me to be the arbiter of a new "idyllic" timeline, even if it did just split off its own viable sequence of events.
Mostly does better things now. Key word mostly. Writes things, but you'll never find them. Or you can ask.
Trans Siberian Anarchestra (it/they)
But these 'tin' cans appear to actually be FALSITE, an alloy of aluminium which is not of this world and entirely capable of lying whenever it feels like it! Someone has stolen the real cans and exposed them to a biodata virus which has made them infectious if you try to recover them from any point of their history.
The Revolution Will Not Be Tropeable
Funny but not helpful
Sorry, calling shenanigans on that whole post.
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Trans Siberian Anarchestra (it/they)
Accursed shenanigans. I would've gotten away with it, too, if it hadn't been for them.
The Revolution Will Not Be Tropeable
Funny but not helpful
Thank goodness, since I never found a talking dog.
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Absolutely no relation to NLK
I'm not talking about idyllic, but if I could stop an atrocity I would.
Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
Nine thousand nine hundred eighty-two reasons.
Yeah, idyllic was hyperbole on my part. But... I still wouldn't stop Hitler.
Who knows what would have happened in his stead? If another dictator takes his place, do you kill him, too?
Mostly does better things now. Key word mostly. Writes things, but you'll never find them. Or you can ask.
The dark Mage of the playground
Until at some point they start panicking and kill off each other themselves.
Nine thousand nine hundred eighty-two reasons.
Now you've plunged the country into chaos. What do you do then, take charge of everything yourself and invade Poland?
Mostly does better things now. Key word mostly. Writes things, but you'll never find them. Or you can ask.
Funny but not helpful
Just get Kuvira to do it for you.
And then get the Doctor to take down Kuvira
And then distract the Doctor with the Doom Patrol.
Easy pease.
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Nine thousand nine hundred eighty-two reasons.
Hey look now I have a vaguely Halloween-y avatar. Still a Pink Floyd album cover, of course.
Mostly does better things now. Key word mostly. Writes things, but you'll never find them. Or you can ask.
Maid of Time
(sorry my phone's camera is so crappy)
i think i mostly want to see what happens when this whole place breaks apart
Absolutely no relation to NLK
The hypothetical (and largely baseless) possibility of something bad happening is hardly an excuse not to prevent a tragedy that you know will happen.
Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
Nine thousand nine hundred eighty-two reasons.
Firstly, it isn't baseless. We could dispute it all day long, but it is not a baseless observation; it is a big change, and we don't know enough to predict what would have happened in Hitler's stead. And again, I wouldn't interfere with the past unless I know that the way it works is splitting off a new timeline, for fear of paradox or doom or what have you. So in the following paradox, I am assuming that is how the time travel in question would work, branching timelines made only via actions of someone with a time travel device making an alteration.
I would not go back in time and kill Hitler. I don't know what fallout from that there could even be. Maybe without Hitler, Europe wouldn't think fascism was so bad. Maybe WWII would be averted and the US and Europe would have all sunk into fascism to avoid economic collapse. Maybe things would be peachy. I don't know, and frankly, I can't know. Now, am I willing to risk it? To create another timeline, essentially a ridiculous amount of people, and just hope things go for the best? What if things go worse? Isn't that my fault in some fashion? I don't want that responsibility. What if something bad still happens, but not as bad as Hitler? Is that success? Hitler still happened in my timeline. That tragedy still happened, and now I've gone and made a timeline where a lesser tragedy happened. Does that really mitigate anything about the first one? No, I would say it doesn't. Because the key is, I wouldn't be averting a tragedy, because this timeline wouldn't happen without my intervention. If we alter this scenario, such that this timeline would occur regardless of whether or not I intervened, would I intervene then? I don't know. Probably not. But I'm under no illusion that my hypothetical refusal in that latter case would be anywhere near as justified as my refusal in the former, which I would say is very justified.
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Trans Siberian Anarchestra (it/they)
On the contrary, the hypothetical (and largely baseless) possibility of something good happening is hardly a good excuse to charge in and try to fix it without understanding the problem. The urge to do something in an emergency is very strong. It takes training and discipline to do nothing
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Ninja'd by an even longer post. That doesn't happen often.
edited 31st Oct '14 5:54:39 PM by Noaqiyeum
The Revolution Will Not Be Tropeable
Absolutely no relation to NLK
I'm starting from the assumption that it works in a split-timeline logic. And hey, let's agree to disagree, but I have a hard time thinking that my tampering with removing an insane genocidal dictator from the equation will result in something worse than the Holocaust.
Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
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darken my mindscape no longer!
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