Doubleposting: We can now make educated guesses about what Dammek will be like, and what role Xefros may play later in Hiveswap.
Dammek: Taurcer, the Cherished - Prospit Blood sign
Xefros: Ariborn, the Escapee - Derse Rage sign.
Another Blood-Rage partnership. Very interesting.
It's been fun.Well, a quiz this simple wouldn’t be that in depth, so feel free to disagree with its actual results if you want.
edited 28th Nov '17 5:30:11 AM by StarBee
@Raichu: I dunno, A lot of Feferi’s early character was about wanting to change things to fit her ideals and whatnot, even though they were out of the norm for alternian troll culture. She also did a lot of plotting and seemed to like the horrorterrors depsite them being deadly abominations of nature. She’s kind of rebellious, despite not having the usual personality to back that up.
Also not sure how I feel about that wheel, determining anything more than opposing pairs and looking nice, as (for example) I cant see how mind and space would have a lot more in common when compared to other overlapping aspects
edited 28th Nov '17 5:44:21 AM by StarBee
Apparently I am a Leza, Sign of the Pliant.
edited 28th Nov '17 6:01:53 AM by Zeromaeus
I do kind of wish they had come up with more unique bits instead of just putting on the other halves of Zodiac names.
It's been fun.It's supposed to be a sort of fantasy derivation. Gemini is Gem from the colour + ini from the moon/aspect pair. And changing the moon just changes the vowel in the second bit. It's quite clever really.
Makes it easier to remember too.
Its like, some kind of fantady etymology or something
More importantly, it probably makes it easier for the author to remember this kind of thing and keep it consistent as he/they are writing.
Taurrius, though the Hope aspect doesn't sound much like me. In fact, I'm more drawn to Rage, it's opposite, though Space sounds most like me overall.
A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they will never sit in.Well, there's plenty of characters that went and did the seeming opposite of their aspect over the course of events in the story.
Fair points about Feferi.
As for the wheel, I'm fairly certain it's evidenced by how the test determines your Aspect?
If we look at all the questions, they go like this:
1. Breath <—-> Blood
2. Breath <—-> Blood
3. Light <—-> Void
4. Light <—-> Void
5. Time <—-> Space
6. Time <—-> Space
7. Heart <—-> Mind
8. Heart <—-> Mind
9. Hope <—-> Rage
10. Hope <—-> Rage
11. Life <—-> Doom
12. Life <—-> Doom
I have to play around with it more and probably make a spreadsheet to see the reasoning, but if you answer A to 1 and 2, and E to 3 and 4, it's a tie between Void and Breath, which resolves in favor of Void. But if you then answer B to 9 or 10, that little bit of Hope swings things towards Breath.
Although if you answer those in favor of Rage, it still says Breath. Unless you go the full E to both, and then the three-way tie comes up Rage.
Hm. This might just be a complicated bit of tiebreaking, I suppose, but I think there's probably some reasoning to it?
Mostly does better things now. Key word mostly. Writes things, but you'll never find them. Or you can ask.Looking at it, I'm willing to bet that the Pure Cancer sign was just an average limeblood sign until The Signless happened
"Have a good day. Have a good week. Have a good month. Have a good year. Have a good life." ~CiviaWasn't the sign taken from the shape of the manacles he was chained in?
Oh God! Natural light!yea the quiz kinda skews towards time/space and a few other aspects due to how it’s set up. there are tumblrs that have dug into it already.
Edit: Found one spreadsheet of it here
edited 28th Nov '17 12:26:49 PM by StarBee
I am... Armini.
Huh, doesn't sound like me at all.
So after digging into the test results, while I still think spitting out Hope as the answer is a little ridiculous, they're interesting? And seem to point towards the wheel being involved, but still subservient to the weird, arbitrary prioritization.
Firstly, I answered neutrally to both of the Time and Space questions. And those were the only questions I answered neutrally to. I answered strongly to both of the Breath and Blood questions, only once towards Blood, and once towards Breath. I answered strongly towards Hope on one question, and weakly towards Rage on the other question. I answered weakly towards Life on both questions. And I answered strongly towards Light on both questions, as well as strongly towards Mind on both questions.
So, very Mindy, very Lighty, fairly Lifey, slightly Hopey. (Or, fairly Hopey, slightly Ragey, fairly Breathy, fairly Bloody, if we don't cancel ties.)
And yet it spat out Hope.
The order of precedence in ties from that earlier tumblr link is Time > Space > Heart > Mind > Hope > Rage > Light > Void > Breath > Blood > Life > Doom; so, looking at that, it would have given Mind if it only weighed the highest level ties? But it gave Hope. The wheel seems to impact results, which I assume means it is a part of the system, since Hussie signed off on it.
It's not as simple as a vector operation though. (That would give Breath, or possibly Life; Breath and Blood cancel completely, Mind and Light cancel horizontally but move upwards, as do Hope and Life, and the up there for both is towards Breath; and then Rage moves it downwards and left, and so towards Life.)
My best guess is that some wonky reasoning led to discarding the Rage as negligible, then weighing the remaining axes as resulting in a tie between Hope and Life; it then resolved the tie by precedence, taking Hope over Life.
Which is kind of nonideal, really.
...Huh.
So I went back to my results, and changed the Rage answer to be stronger; it still spat out Hope. I then changed it to be a neutral answer, and instead of Hope, it gave Life.
Which has a lot of implications, and kind of shoots down my theory here!
(Not about the wheel mattering, though; I think that's solidly evidenced by the fact that the answer wasn't Mind. Though it seems like my assumption that points towards an Aspect's opposite would make that Aspect less likely to win was wrong, and quite possibly backwards? Man, I'm gonna have to do the dumb thing and start working out how this works with multiple way ties, aren't I.)
Mostly does better things now. Key word mostly. Writes things, but you'll never find them. Or you can ask.Honestly, Raichu, that sounds more like an issue with the quiz coding than with any conception of the Aspects.
Edit: I realize this is a substantial edit to make after the fact, but I wonder if this means that certain Aspects or classes are more inclined to certain Lunar Sway (aside from the general trend of Time-Derse and Space-Prospit). It doesn't seem likely that a Prince of Hope like Eridan (or rather, one who would eventually go all 'destroy X' like Eridan) would be a Prospit dreamer, but that may just be a question of correlation - being a destructive Prince may not mandate you being a Derse dreamer, but you're not likely to be a destructive Prince unless you are one anyway, independently and yet closely correlated.
edited 28th Nov '17 4:56:13 PM by RedSavant
It's been fun.I mean, maybe Hussie didn't think it was important. Or he couldn't quite get what he wanted, so he went to the next best thing.
I can't help but wonder if mathematical analysis wouldn't help Raichu's analysis here.
I mean, it's both?
The quiz coding has an arbitrary quirk (the order of precedence when resolving ties), but this doesn't seem to be that;
It seems to indicate that when arbitrating a tie, it takes a strong for and strong/weak against over a strong for and neutral.
And things do rely on the wheel; I answered neutral to every question, and then strong for one of the Hope questions, and then weak for both of the Life questions, and it gave me Breath.
It's too intricate to just be lazy coding, I'm pretty sure?
Mostly does better things now. Key word mostly. Writes things, but you'll never find them. Or you can ask.I didn't mean to imply the coding was lazy, just that Hussie didn't pay much mind to it (like, he didn't check every possible combination of answers to see if it made sense) or what he actually wanted wasn't viable (too hard to implement or actually impossible).
Oh, that was more in response to Red.
With that said, that's possible, and the order of precedence of various Aspects in ties seems like an example of compromise, but it seems that there is an underlying system; I just find it more likely that said system is what Hussie intends, or rather an approximation of that intent. And so some of the broader takeaways (like there being an Aspect wheel, and the order of that wheel) from the system can be assumed to be applicable to the actual system.
Otherwise, it would be easier to handle things according to whichever Aspect had the most points, with simple ties being resolved by precedence, with points given to an inverse aspect affecting that total in a set way. The complexity of behavior involving the wheel, and of points towards inverse aspects, had to be programmed in; and thus, while it might not be and probably isn't the perfect intent of Hussie's intent, it's attempting to replicate that intent. Otherwise it wouldn't have been bothered with, since it presumably took more effort.
edited 28th Nov '17 6:20:03 PM by RaichuKFM
Mostly does better things now. Key word mostly. Writes things, but you'll never find them. Or you can ask.
Gemries the Savvy, Dersite Time Aspect.
That... is really weird. I'm not sure I buy it.
Edit: Read the descriptions, and from what they're saying I would be a Taurrius, the Unmapped. Bronze Derse Hope-bound. Interesting.
edited 28th Nov '17 3:35:39 AM by RedSavant
It's been fun.