The "bitch about your GM" thread:

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701 IraTheSquire10th Sep 2012 11:52:59 PM from No idea. Measuring speed
Phyrexian Dalek
Me either.

But then again, the only campaign that I've run so far the point is to make the PC look as awesome as possible.
I AM A DALEK!!

The human body is obscene. It must be replaced!
702 TheyCallMeTomu10th Sep 2012 11:57:30 PM , Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Totes Moe
Pfft lame.

It's great to let P Cs be awesome, but I like games with a bit of challenge. Make them look awesome by having them face down super-awesome threats. Like Dragon Gods!
703 IraTheSquire11th Sep 2012 12:00:10 AM from No idea. Measuring speed
Phyrexian Dalek
That's kind of what I did.
I AM A DALEK!!

The human body is obscene. It must be replaced!
704 TriggerLoaded13th Sep 2012 07:01:18 PM from Canada, eh? , Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
$50 a day, plus expenses
I'm reminded of the Knights of the Dinner Table, having to play under an eight-year-old.

  • TIMMY: The ogre hits you for twenny points of damage!
  • BOB: Hey! Wait! Where'd he come from? And you didn't roll!
  • TIMMY: He hits you again for anudder twenny points!
  • BOB: You can't do that!
  • TIMMY: Can too! I'm the game master!

edited 13th Sep '12 7:01:32 PM by TriggerLoaded

Don't take life too seriously. It's only a temporary situation.
705 TheyCallMeTomu23rd Sep 2012 01:05:59 PM , Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Totes Moe
Bah! My DM just cancelled tonight's session, along with the Wednesday session!
Burn
Is there a thread for bitching about Munchkins? If not, I'll just bitch about this guy here.

I thought the trope description was exaggeration. I thought.

Turns out it's all true, and I had the misfortune to play with one in my first game of D&D. He stole the best loot immediately (Even if it's not something his character would find valuable), he made an absurdly and illogically overpowered character, he argued with the DM about the most incredible minutae, he attempted to derail the campaign several times "just 'cause", he was be obsessed with getting the most experience for the party even after we said that we don't care, and he would kill everything on sight, which made my lawful good character his whipping boy. He doesn't even have a reason for being kill-crazy; he's supposed to be a merchant, not some chaotic evil asshole.

It's almost bizarre how much one player can ruin the game, and at least I was able to actually play. Our thief couldn't do jack because every single situation he tried to be useful in, Mr. Munchkin would come up with a "better idea" that did not involve Mr. Thief in any way.

It's really soured up my first roleplaying experience. :( I mean, our GM was a pretty decent guy, but I sometimes wished he would just say "No." Is there a good way to talk to a Munchkin player and ask him to stop being so overbearingwild mass guess

edited 7th Oct '12 11:04:00 PM by Scardoll

707 Kayeka8th Oct 2012 01:59:18 AM from Amsterdam , Relationship Status: Brony
World's biggest wannabe
There is no point in talking to such glory-hogs on their own. You need to unite the group and make it clear that either he plays nice, or he won't be playing at all.
Friend code for fun, profit, and smash: 0130-1781-6865
708 Rationalinsanity10th Oct 2012 08:53:50 PM from The Inner Rim , Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Alpha 1, standing by
[up][up]If I had been running that there would have been a mircometeor imbedded in his skull. That sort of shit can't be tolerated.
709 TriggerLoaded11th Oct 2012 07:01:38 PM from Canada, eh? , Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
$50 a day, plus expenses
I always find the best way to deal with people who act like that in game is to have all the characters react as they should in-game. If the person's being greedy and stupid, have the characters react, especially if it's a new game and the characters don't know each other yet.
Don't take life too seriously. It's only a temporary situation.
710 Rationalinsanity11th Oct 2012 08:18:00 PM from The Inner Rim , Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Alpha 1, standing by
Combine that with the whole "the shop keeper you just tried to rob is actually a 7th war vet and that sword on display isn't for show" routine and you have decent low level munchkin robbery repellent.
711 IraTheSquire12th Oct 2012 06:10:15 AM from No idea. Measuring speed
Phyrexian Dalek
Or as in one of the tips in one of the rule books in another setting and system: somebody pulling that crap often won't escape the eyes of the law for long. And if they munchkin to the point where they can take on the watch, eventually the army will be sent in and he will be taken out.

This is also why I like some sort of morality system inbuilt into games.

edited 12th Oct '12 6:12:34 AM by IraTheSquire

I AM A DALEK!!

The human body is obscene. It must be replaced!
712 drunkscriblerian25th Oct 2012 12:09:20 AM from Castle Geekhaven , Relationship Status: In season
Street Writing Man
As a gamemaster I follow the Cyberpunk 2020 directive; if the characters are getting out of line, go ahead and waste 'em. Some players need to be reminded that the GM is God, and can invent whatever he needs...whereas they are bound by the Law of Experience Accretion.

As a player I follow the Quality by Popular Vote rule; if the gamemaster is getting out of line, vote with your foot. Whether that means walking away or kicking said GM in the gonads is open to situational interpretation.

edited 25th Oct '12 12:11:00 AM by drunkscriblerian

If I were to write some of the strange things that come under my eyes they would not be believed.

~Cora M. Strayer~
713 IraTheSquire25th Oct 2012 12:16:09 AM from No idea. Measuring speed
Phyrexian Dalek
Whether that means walking away or kicking said GM in the gonads is open to situational interpretation.

Or the aim of the said kick. It will be embarrassing to miss.
I AM A DALEK!!

The human body is obscene. It must be replaced!
714 drunkscriblerian25th Oct 2012 12:21:20 AM from Castle Geekhaven , Relationship Status: In season
Street Writing Man
Hey, some G Ms need a kick to the balls (metaphorical or otherwise). But if you are going to try, make sure you are steely enough to deliver and deal with the consequences.
If I were to write some of the strange things that come under my eyes they would not be believed.

~Cora M. Strayer~
715 IraTheSquire25th Oct 2012 06:09:03 AM from No idea. Measuring speed
Phyrexian Dalek
I was more thinking that the aim is so bad (or the target so small) that you miss the balls.
I AM A DALEK!!

The human body is obscene. It must be replaced!
716 TheyCallMeTomu25th Oct 2012 09:00:45 AM , Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Totes Moe
I play more plot based campaigns, that tend towards establishing long term character relations between P Cs and other P Cs and P Cs and NP Cs. Just wasting the P Cs with Rocks Fall, Everyone Dies kind of kills the campaign.
717 Exelixi25th Oct 2012 08:24:48 PM from Alchemist's workshop , Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Lesbarian
You also tend to run campaigns where the laws of the universe run on anime, and it's inconceivable that the characters might get killed by anything that isn't sufficiently impressive. This removes the obvious things like "your general psychosis coupled with your charming lack of subtlety has caused the Duke's army to grow rather irritated at you and heavily inclined to stick pointy things in your general direction."
Mura: -flips the bird to veterinary science with one hand and Euclidean geometry with the other-
718 TheyCallMeTomu25th Oct 2012 08:26:44 PM , Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Totes Moe
You're confusing cause with effect. Or effect with cause. Or something like that, whatever.

I don't stop P Cs from dying horribly because it's anime-esque. I stop P Cs from dying horribly because persistent personalities are the core of the campaign.

That being said, I've never actually had a total party of complete idiots that decide to act in crazy ways that would get the P Cs killed under ordinary circumstances.

edited 25th Oct '12 8:30:34 PM by TheyCallMeTomu

Burn
Well, I talked with the guy I had a problem with, and he said he would cool it down. Thank God. [lol]
720 imojee26th Oct 2012 02:49:47 PM from The Desert , Relationship Status: In bed with a green-skinned space babe
Be evil
My party addresses the munchkin problem by having everyone be a munchkin. Really we only have problems when someone tries not being a munchkin.
Through the eyes I have known you.
721 Exelixi26th Oct 2012 03:00:34 PM from Alchemist's workshop , Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Lesbarian
There is one sort of munchkin I like, and it is the sort of munchkin I am when I'm in the mood: The one who justifies the character being overpowered in-character. rationalizing the most seemingly bizarre decisions with elaborate back stories or believable justifications.
Mura: -flips the bird to veterinary science with one hand and Euclidean geometry with the other-
722 TheyCallMeTomu26th Oct 2012 03:12:49 PM , Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Totes Moe
Sounds like me.

And yeah, my DM basically insists everyone be power gamed to the maximum.
723 IraTheSquire26th Oct 2012 05:45:54 PM from No idea. Measuring speed
Phyrexian Dalek
[up][up] That's exactly what I do, too. Because plot holes and inconsistencies are best for hooks.
I AM A DALEK!!

The human body is obscene. It must be replaced!
724 imojee27th Oct 2012 01:23:23 AM from The Desert , Relationship Status: In bed with a green-skinned space babe
Be evil
My game group has been known to get mad when players don't metagame constantly and generally act like a munchkin.
Through the eyes I have known you.
725 TheyCallMeTomu27th Oct 2012 10:01:32 AM , Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Totes Moe
I'm not sure why everyone keeps acting like being a munchkin means you abandon the story to do so, but I suppose that's a pre-4E convention, when stupid multiclassing was the most likely means of generating bonus feats and crazy saves, whereas 4E limits your number of classes to (barring a certain paragon path or the bard being your base class) three.

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