The Walking Dead: The Game

And as for gay characters in the comics who aren't necessarily open about it, there's Martinez (confirmed by Kirkman to be gay, though it was never mentioned in the comics) and possibly Jesus (implied by the last issue, where he was shown in bed with a guy. Though maybe he's bisexual.)

edited 7th Mar '14 9:59:38 AM by JTorch

Still not up in Sweden.

Ok, its one thing to make a joking line, its another to have a joking line that has a fully modeled prop, texture, and be mentioned TWICE. Rule of Conservation of Detail and the fact that neither line is 'funny' really suggests to me that its a Chekhov's gun waiting to go off but I can't at all figure out the significance of it.

If we go with the idea that its just to remind Clem of her 'smiling' life before, then there's no point to have the line twice. The only reason to have it twice is to enture that "Hey Player. Look at this Soup Can!"

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Well, it could have just been a hint about Matthew. I know one L Per figured it out just based on that.

Confirmed, Jesus is gay.

edited 7th Mar '14 11:17:11 AM by Mukora

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."

...I'm sure this makes so much more sense in context...

I'm a critical person but I'm a nice guy when you get to know me. Now, I should be writing.

I really wish they didn't use Lee's voice for the Previously on….

Never trust anyone who uses "degenerate" as an insult.

Should we have Carver under the cabin survivors group on the character page? I think we should move him under "other", or his own group.

edited 7th Mar '14 5:48:00 PM by SilentColossus

Suck on that, the religious right! And yes, I'm pretty sure the point of the peach cans was to imply the link between Matthew and the ski lodge group.

Mullon, you can't save Walter. You can save Alvin, though, so way to screw that one up!

... I didn't save Alvin either.

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I didn't save Alvin, either... then I reloaded.

He and Nick are probably dead next episode.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."

Hide Your Gays is just as bad.

They weren't really hidden. Partner in American lingo is usually short for domestic partner when not referring to business.

Pretty much. And, they were in the photo together, referred to him as partner, added to his reaction to the his friend's death, its doesn't take any squinting to make it about love.

I'm a critical person but I'm a nice guy when you get to know me. Now, I should be writing.

Just finished 202.

Holy shit.

My two cents:

I knew that there was only one logical option to 'I thought you were dead' but I still had my jaw open when I saw Kenny. That beard suits him, and in too many ways for his own good, he's still the same goodhearted, somewhat selfish, very egotistical character in love again. Compare how he treated Savannah through most of 103 to how he treats Wellington during dinner; exact same blind hope that simply getting there will solve all problems.

Sarita's accent bothers me. I understand American accents and Indian accents, but hers seems to be kinda both mashed up together, randomly at that, and it sounded kinda grating. Who is her voice actress, anyway? Otherwise she isn't a bad character, if a bit too reminiscent of Katjaa.

God, 'Pass me that can, Duck' was sad.

Walter and Matthew's deaths are totally cases of Bury Your Gays; 100% of gay characters introduced have died, as opposed to less than 100% of straight characters, I think that counts as disproportionate. To be fair, Sarita did kinda foreshadow it when she said that it was dangerous for them to be so nice. The guy was a fucking saint; he actually saved the life of the guy who killed his partner. Too Good for This Sinful Earth, perhaps? Both of them?

I killed Alvin. To be fair, Kenny was a pretty good shot and I thought he'd at least hit properly. After that, though, I understand not shooting, especially when his wife was held.

Where the hell was Luke?

The scene at the start where that George guy comes for a visit was tense as all hell; it was the first sign that Telltale was back in form with TWD.

Fuck you Bonnie fuck you I wish Dee had pulverised your skull you fucking bitch.

You could actually consider this episode ending with The Bad Guy Wins. Carver is now officially, to me, evil, or, at maybe the very most, extremely ruthless and I doubt anything can change that. He actually shot two unarmed guys and at least one was for kicks. And I'm guessing he's Becca's kid's father? This is Crawford all over again.

TL;DR: Amazing episode, can't wait for season 3. Sorry if it was too long.

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Who's George?

It can't be The Bad Guy Wins because that's an ending trope. This is only 40% of the way through the full story. The bad guy winning at the end of an episode isn't a trope, it's conflict.

George is the name Carver used when he came to the cabin.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."

Oh.

I never bothered to ask him for a name, so he never said it.

Its not his real name anyway. Carver is his last name. Don't remember the first but it wasn't George, I don't think.

I liked the "Pass me that can, Duck" thing, but I wish it had been said more in the heat of the moment than after a pause.

I also didn't mind Sarita and I get that her similarities to Katja is very clearly intentional, but I don't know a thing about most of these people.

The thing that is bothered me about this season most is that there are far less conversations in general. Episode 1 had Hershal's Farm and the Store where you could talk to all these characters and learn who they are and where they came from and maybe who they were. Episode 2 had the hotel and two separate instances on the Dairy with Episode 3 having the Hotel, RV, and Train areas to talk with people and so on to the other episodes. Really, Episode 5 was the one that didn't really have much time to talk at all.

So far, I don't know or feel like I know anything about Season 3's cast and we're nearly half way through the season. I know that they are characters, but there's hardly been any meaningful enough interaction with any of them to make me feel something should Episode 3 die with someone's death. To go back to Season 1, Lilly forced us to choose who to feed to show us how difficult the situation was and I understood her better for it and said episode ended with her father's death which you either tried to prevent or conspired to finish off. You can either high-five Duck or leave him hanging in the very episode he dies in. The scene with Carley, Lee, and Glen at the Hotel in Episode 1 established each of their characters when presented with the situation.

So far, there's hardly been enough of this at all. Alvin really has nothing except for the baby and Rebecca for their characterization and same goes for Rebecca. I know so little about Luke and Nick that I can't tell if the 'You two sound like a match' comment is legitimately intended to suggest something or not. The only character I feel like I know at all is Sarah and Pete, one of the two is currently dead. The death's of Matthew and Walter become a bit undermined at this point because, well, they're sort of non-characters.

I'm a critical person but I'm a nice guy when you get to know me. Now, I should be writing.

His first name is William, and he seems to go by "Bill".

As for the supposed lack of conversations...I guess that's technically true, but I find it's to the game's benefit. Season 1 got really bogged a lot of the time. It took me almost three hours to beat one of the episodes (Episode 4, I think). The major difference between Season 1 of The Walking Dead and Season 2 (and also The Wolf Among Us) is that there are almost no environmental puzzles in the latter. The game is entirely focused on the conversations, so while there may be less of them overall, they make up a greater part of the gameplay.

I don't know about you, but I certainly don't miss having to flip batteries around in a boombox, or getting Andy St. John to leave the barn.

That George guy was Carver himself? I didn't notice, probably because I played 202 over two nights, so the resemblance didn't strike when I saw him, I was far more focused on Bonnie. Suddenly my respect for Clementine's nerve has doubled.

Is there an episodic version of The Bad Guy Wins trope?

Ok I am calling it: Carver's camp is essentially Caesar's Legion in TWD's universe.

edited 11th Mar '14 8:56:57 PM by arcanephoenix

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Nope. The fact that Bonnie is able to hold a weapon at all means it's not anything like the Legion. Personally I'm expecting it to be like Woodbury.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."

I don't think it will be quite as insane as Woodbury, personally. The next episode looks like it's setting up choices where siding with Carver is a valid option. The Governor always had a couple screws too loose for that to be the case there.

Carver seems to have plenty of loose screws, as well. The next episode trailer just screamed "Cult leader."

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."

There's very little difference between a cult and a successful refuge in this world. Carver is undeniably crazy, but it's possible that he may also be right. The vibe I got from the trailer is that Carver takes the time to show Clementine around and talk to her, and that that might play into decisions you make afterward.

Considering the things he says about the cabin group, I think it'd be interesting if Carver ends up being right on the money with the Cabin group and they're not the best of people. I mean, I should think that there'd be some good reason for listening to half of this crap from Carver if, well, Episode 2 gives us no reason to give him a care in the world.

Though, I really do question the lengths he went to get these people back. SEVEN DAYS WALK TO DRAG THEM BACK?! That's two weeks total! Why? Even if they are a 'family' back a Wal Mart!Land, he's done nothing but treat them like shit and given them no reason to 'act' anything like a family. I'm horribly confused as to what this means.

I would completely disagree. I enjoyed spending 4 hours to get through an episode. Sure, I found the things like Carley putting the batteries in backwards to be obvious filler, but the 4 hour length told a cohesive story per episode with a beginning, middle, and end (which, so far, this Season doesn't seem to exactly have per episode), made the price well worth it, and really hooked me on who these characters were and made me care.

The first time I played TWD, It was Christmas Morning. I spent the entire day on that game. I was bawling when Duck died and that's one of the maybe two or three times I've ever seen a game pry and emotional response out of me. I sobbed even more when Lee died.

At the moment, Season 2 really isn't doing that and its bothering me. There aren't any times to talk with people and hardly any puzzles, not like they were much of puzzles in the first place, but they at least broke the gameplay up a little. Its incredibly linear; its too linear and its hurting the story they're trying to tell at the moment because, should this continue to Episode 5, I might end up uttering the 8 deadly words.

I didn't mind it when Wolf Among had a lack of talking and puzzles because that was the first season of its own entity and it had a different style, namely Noir, while TWD on the other hand established itself a certain way in season one.

Sorry if I talk in paragraphs. I tend to do that a lot...

I'm a critical person but I'm a nice guy when you get to know me. Now, I should be writing.

We'll have to agree to disagree. Wolf Among Us is hands down the best thing Telltale has done so far, in my opinion, and I'm glad that Walking Dead Season 2 skews more towards it than it does Season 1.