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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#20802: Oct 18th 2016 at 7:29:50 PM

-nods-

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#20804: Oct 18th 2016 at 7:38:30 PM

[up]

None of us are ready for a pain in the ass that big.cool

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#20805: Oct 18th 2016 at 7:45:15 PM

My thoughts will be with you once you guys get to Broly 2: The Quickening.

Followed by Broly 3: The Final Brolmension.

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TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#20806: Oct 18th 2016 at 7:55:48 PM

What does him not having brought them up have to do with them existing?

Well I'm just thinking no one would contract stupidity and just stand around waiting for him to transform if they assumed he only had one transformation.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#20807: Oct 19th 2016 at 1:46:53 AM

Regarding the Kienzan: I assume that it's a generic Ki blast, flattened out and spun to make it flatter and sharper. The stronger you are, the flatter you can make it and the thinner the edge becomes, increasing its effectiveness linearly, relative to your Power Level. Going by this assumption, Beerus can probably make a Kienzan an atom thick, and Zeno can make a Kienzan capable of slicing quarks in half.

TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#20808: Oct 19th 2016 at 7:04:20 AM

That was because he was already super beaten up and bleeding energy. That wouldn't be the case when he was just in his second form.

This. He also demonstrates after Krillin cuts off his tail that transforming regenerates the damage. So ultimately it would have accomplished nothing.

This is wrong. Goku calls the technique worthless when Freeza used it (or something just like it) against him. The main problem with the Kienzan is that it's super slow and makes a lot of noise so you'd have to be not paying attention and deaf in order to get hit by it.

Quite. See above, re: dodging it is child's play. Even when Krillin has the full element of surprise:

  • He has not been involved in the fight with Vegeta yet so there's no reason to suspect he's there.
  • He throws it from behind Vegeta while he's distracted with Gohan.
  • Vegeta has not yet learned to sense ki.

Vegeta still manages to dodge the thing. Its cutting edge and ability to damage foes far more powerful than Krillin is an impressive feat, but ultimately it's still very limited in usability.

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#20809: Oct 21st 2016 at 2:36:10 AM

As I've said before: it is the Super Saiyan Grade III of techniques. Potent, but only a fucking idiot would think it's going to hit its target.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#20810: Oct 21st 2016 at 2:58:32 AM

It seems like the sort of thing that would be more useful as a modifier to melee attacks. Like, a sharp blade made of ki. If you're going to be fighting someone up close anyway.

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#20811: Oct 21st 2016 at 3:05:18 AM

Which is why the Ki sword is a thing. Only a few people use it though. Vegetto in the anime, Salza in the Cooler movie, and Zamasu in Super.

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#20812: Oct 21st 2016 at 3:18:08 AM

Anime? Vegetto uses it in the manga.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#20813: Oct 21st 2016 at 8:31:14 AM

Even then, you'd need to be fast enough to hit your opponent.

If your up against someone like Frieza, then you likely shouldn't be getting up close to them anyway, because he's kill you in seconds.

I can see where Krillin was going with it: A technique that can, in theory, kill an enemy regardless of how high their power is through it's cutting force.

But as so many have pointed out, it's too damned slow to do anything.

I still think the Solar Flare / Destructo Disk combination is a good idea. Sure, it won't work against Frieza, Cell, and Buu, who can survive being cut in half *the former), and regenerate lost limbs (the latter two) respectively, but against nearly anyone else, I'd think the first technique would nullify the weakness of the second one since the Solar Flare works on everyone.

In fact, they really should be using it against Black and Zamasu. Though with the skills those two have, they'd likely dodge anyway.

edited 21st Oct '16 8:31:29 AM by HandsomeRob

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#20814: Oct 21st 2016 at 8:52:39 AM

Besides, wouldn't most of the villains be able to sense the Kienzan's energy without needing to see? I know the early Saiyans and Freeza wouldn't but everyone else would probably think "Huh. Giant energy skewer. Let me get out of the way before I can feel my intestines."

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#20815: Oct 21st 2016 at 9:07:28 AM

I think pretty much anyone in the PTO not named Lord Frieza would be screwed by a Taiyoken/Kienzan combo. Androids 17 and 18 too.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#20816: Oct 21st 2016 at 10:10:23 AM

Krillin and Gohan both managed to hit Frieza with punches and kicks at various points. If those strikes were augmented by a blade they would have cut Frieza.

Granted, Frieza can survive being diced to ribbons, but still.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#20817: Oct 21st 2016 at 12:53:34 PM

I know Gohan laid a beatdown on Frieza that you could dance to (Get it!evil grin), but I don't re call Krillin landing any physical hits.

He did score a tail slice with the aforementioned Kienzan / Destructo Disk, but that's about it for the amount of damage he inflicted on Frieza.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#20818: Oct 25th 2016 at 3:41:22 PM

The Adventures of Puddin' begin!

...Yes I know there's a different thread for their gaming content, but we posted Xenoverse 1 in here so.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#20819: Oct 25th 2016 at 3:44:08 PM

That was way back when we didn't have a different thread for their L Ps.

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#20820: Oct 25th 2016 at 3:45:09 PM

I don't have a problem with it, since Dumplin is officially canon to DBZA, but I believe the Xenoverse 1 playthrough ended before we created that thread.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#20821: Oct 25th 2016 at 3:47:58 PM

I mean, before we created the gaming thread we only really posted their "two saiyans" "renegade for life", "krillin plays" and the Xenoverse playthrough in this thread specifically, because those were their gaming things that were most related to DBZA.

edited 25th Oct '16 3:48:09 PM by unnoun

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#20822: Oct 25th 2016 at 4:05:40 PM

God dammit.

I have no intention of watching this (I got sick of their Xenoverse Let's Play's pretty quick because they were too into their damn jokes and not actually playing the game, even if they apparently got better later).

But I do wonder if they'll reveal Pudding is someone in DBZA like how Dumplin turned out to be Poppo. I doubt they'd pull that joke again, but I can't help but wonder anyway.

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Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#20823: Oct 25th 2016 at 4:15:24 PM

[up] I will admit, them adding "bits" to each LP is definitely Love It or Hate It, like their PC suddenly becoming a cannibal in Fallout 4. That's why I was kind of happy when Slowmara died in the Soul Silver Nuzlocke. [lol]

edited 25th Oct '16 4:15:42 PM by Lionheart0

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#20824: Oct 25th 2016 at 4:16:16 PM

-obligatory table salt joke-

But I agree, I don't really enjoy their LP's. Tried to watch their Dragonball Fusions play and gave up 10 minutes later.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#20825: Oct 25th 2016 at 4:19:42 PM

I don't have an issue with their jokes taking up the Let's Plays. I'm here for the personalities, not to see them playing well.


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