Dragon Ball Z Abridged

Here's a question. When they wished for all the people killed by Cell to come back Android 16 never did. That and we never hear about any of his adventures in Otherworld. Does this mean that Androids are just soulless automatons? Do you think the abridged series will ever bring up this fact? And just to confuse things in one of the Dragonball movies, Android 8 died and got brought back to life with a wish, so what is he then?

It doesn't say that 16 didn't come back. Like, that's not technically confirmed.

...Also, 17 died for the first time when Cell blew up on King Kai's planet, so how did they get him back to Earth from Otherworld?

Android 16 in particular didn't have a soul because he was an actual andriod. All the others were cyborgs.

You don't know that for sure!

Android 16 was not resurrected because he's not a person. He's a soulless automaton. He's not in Heaven or Hell right now; his existence ceased when his chip was destroyed. It would likely be within Shenron's power to restore his chip, but that would have to be a separate wish from bringing back to life all the people who died, because Android 16 was never actually alive to begin with.

For the purposes of the wishing, 16 is an object that Cell destroyed. By comparison, Android 8 was restored because there were two wishes made. One was to restore the planet Earth and everything on it, the other was to resurrect the people. Android 8 would have been reconstructed by that first wish.

edited 5th May '15 3:18:05 PM by TobiasDrake

Xenoverse 28.

When Broly? Now Broly.

Mo Broly mo problems.

So...what was the point of that subplot?

Bad guys empower Freeza and his men...in the encounter where Bardock died anyway. Then Bardock got sucked into a wormhole...because. Then bad guys empower Broly, Broly has to be beat up by player character etc...then HE gets sucked into the wormhole and both Broly and Bardock end up...on Namek.

Presumably during the Freeza fight, which explains why everyone was teleported to Earth. Then Bardock becomes an ape and Broly dies and then Bardock becomes not an ape and Trunks knocks out Vegeta and...

...Man I am overthinking the obvious fanservice fight.

Also, why do video games always base Broly off Second Coming, where he is basically a mindless screaming brute anyway? Not that Broly was a deep and complex character anyway, but it'd give him more to do than scream Kakarot all the time.

The reason Trunks made the wish to Shenron for a Warrior to help correct history is that he didn't want to meet people that knew him already or were going to know him when he was time patrolling. Because it would be bad because of reasons.

He mentions this at one point.

No, I meant specifically the Bardock/Broly thing.

It's why he knocked out Vegeta.

I don't have an answer for the rest of that bullshit.

I think the Broly/Bardock mission was there to justify their inclusion in the game. Did you notice every playable character was in a Time Patrol mission at some point? And the DLC missions include all the playable characters there.

What gets me about Broly's inclusion is the fact that every other Toei movie character isn't in. And unlike GT, Broly doesn't get any kind of explanation for his existence.

edited 5th May '15 3:37:42 PM by VeryMelon

I'm kind of wishing Bardock referenced the Episode of Bardock special and let him go Super Saiyan during the fight with Broly.

I was expecting that, too.

Even I was expecting that.

Especially since that wormhole business was the perfect(?) excuse for Episode of Bardock to happen.

So, here's a question.

Bardock had Vegeta make a Power Ball, so he could go Oozaru against Broly. He then broke the Power Ball, so Broly couldn't go Oozaru. How did Bardock remain an Oozaru with no Power Ball or moon in the sky?

If I recall, in the episode, they questioned if Broly even has a tail.

Though, yeah, why is Bardock an Great Ape if he smashed it? Did he need to smash it, since Vegeta and Broly are both tailess (as far as we know) and thus wouldn't be affected?

Broly had a tail in his concept art.

His pants are really baggy, so I'm not sure how anyone would be able to tell?

Makes sense.

I always figured Broly appearing tailless wasn't an oversight, since Paragus has one. I always figured Paragus removed it because having a planet busting unstable child was hard enough, a planet busting unstable child who can also turn into a even stronger and more wild ape would be too much for him to control.

edited 5th May '15 8:04:19 PM by Otherarrow

the part in the concept art with a tail is Toriyama saying it's fine whether Broli has a tail or not. It's unknown whether he actually has one or not.

Anyway Bardock destroying the power ball was completely nonsensical and I think they were trying to make him look tactical but failed. Really that entire sequence is nonsensical.

Broli is in because Broli and Bardock are contractually obligated to be included in games.

I'm oddly okay with that.

Turles/Tullece from that tree of Might movie also made a power ball to transform someone into an oozaru and then destroyed it so he wouldn't transform. Gohan stayed in oozaru form, so i assume that's where Xenoverse got it from.

Although, in canon, Gohan stopped being a great ape once Piccolo blew up the moon.

ah,but Ape!Gohan saw the moon destroyed.the other Apes didn't!

Maybe Power Balls are special.