CHADhan Player.
Yea, I understand that justification but that doesn't mean I have to like it. Because the end result is just a character arc for a character that's no longer relevant.
A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
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& I also stated that there will be no going back to the old status quo when the Kalos League is over. Whatever your feelings are about the Kalos League, none can deny that it has set the highest standard of what to expect from any tournament. An impossible standard to maintain status quo. And they know it considering how they are consciously avoiding the Island Trials or what the end goal of the Alola adventure is. Why is that? They've always stated what Ash is going to do by the end of the series, why is Alola so different? Is it because they fear another League backlash again?
Oh, and I should also mention that I long portrayed Alain as a Memetic Loser for quite some time in light of his failure to learn anything from the League (only learning that he was wrong after Team Flare destroyed the Kalos League). I'm curious if anyone else has done that to ensure that this rival will Never Live It Down.
Except they can because the core audience won't know about it, just like they never know about his previous failures.
People over 12 still watching the anime are a minority.
Oh they know. They've been airing old Pokémon episodes in Japan, they've been promoting Ash's hats from the beginning of the series to the now, and it doesn't take that much for a Japanese kid to find out the results on the Internet. If they are so confident in keeping Ash from winning the League, why is it that they do state the end goal of Alola like they do for the other regions? Or why is that they interrupted the battle between Ash and Gladion with Team Rocket rather than having Gladion defeat Ash?
There are consequences to ill-fated choices. For the Pokémon movies, the effects have already been felt with falling profits.
I think the difference is new little kids don't stick with the anime long because there's no huge fad compelling them to watch like our generation. So they probably watch the show for like 2-3 years or whatever and then outgrow it and move onto other shows. In Japan it still airs Thursday nights but for the dub it airs so early in the morning I doubt most kids even bother to watch it.
TV in the 2010's is a lot different than it was in the 90's or early 2000's. Nowadays kids spend more time watching youtube than anything on actual television. Anime is dead in the mainstream U.S. outside of adult fans. Aside from long running fads like Dragonball and Pokemon, you don't see anime pushed anymore outside on regular TV.
The Unknown
The dub has been airing during the afternoon and even at night, not just in the morning.
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
The pokemon baseball episode aired today, pretty amusing especially with SM's exaggerated meme and anime expressions. Pretty fun for a filler episode.
Face me now, Bitch!
Anime is not dead amongst children.
Crunchyroll has tons of children and teen subscribers, even if non paid.
Watch Symphogear
CHADhan Player.
I don't get how you can see Alain as a Memetic Loser: like, even with his screw up at the end of arc, it's not like he's been consistently a failure.
A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Face me now, Bitch!
Alain pretty much won every battle he's been in for the most part.
Memetic Loser is meant for Characters like Yamcha or Sakura.
Watch Symphogear
At first I thought you meant Cardcaptor Sakura and was confused until I realized you meant Naruto's Sakura.
The Protomen enhanced my life.
The only thing I now recall of Alain is him getting duped by Team Flare, Team Flare, Team Flare, and Lysandre who is the Boss of Team Flare. Gullible fool who unwittingly destroyed a city and does nothing about it unless being told by others.
Speaking of Crunchyrolls, I wonder if we'll ever get the original Japanese episodes here in the US.
CHADhan Player.
None of that actually changes what he said about him being a great battler though. It's just you exaggerating one screw up of his.
A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
An exaggeration, perhaps. But then again, Memetic Mutation is often an exaggeration of an idea.
That and being a great battler means nothing considering what happened to his little Mega Stone and Mega Ring after the whole Team Flare incident was dealt with...
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
After the Team Flare arc was over, Alain was no longer seen wearing Mega Ring and Charizard is no longer wearing that Mega Stone bracelet around its neck. The last episode of XYZ reveals what happened: Alain gave them up to the police as evidences for the Team Flare case and he justified it by saying that they belonged to Lysandre and not him. He also said he intends to find and earn his own Mega Stone and Keystone this time around, and he wishes to battle Ash when he finally does.
I very much doubt kids watch anime on Crunchyroll besides Dragonball Super or other shonen shows like Naruto. Most of the other anime is weeabo stuff or fanservice shows mostly aimed at teens or adults. I don't think kids really care about watching shows about a sister with a crush on her brother.
Face me now, Bitch!
Nope, its more likely then you think, so stop generalizing.
King of Anime
A character doesn't have to consistently be a failure to be a memetic loser. To quote our page on the matter:
Losing just once is enough to be considered a memetic loser so long as the fandom flanderizes that character in relation to that loss. Admittedly though the trope applies more to Ash since the fanbase tends to jump more on his loses than his wins.
The reason why are fed up with the anime is because what is the point of a character who never really changes and always has to reset from the start.
I also really wish they switched out Ash after the first season to focus on a new protagonist. Heck, they should have gone with the original plan of Ash winning the tournament and defeating Gary. When the games and anime got popular, Ash could be retired then the new character could come on board. In this case being Ethan/Gold, then he goes on his own Pokemon journey in Johto.
Brenner's Wolves Fight Again
I'm asking the people of this thread. Why do you still watch it? Why do you still have faith about it? Why do you still care about it?
Where there's life, there's hope.
CHADhan Player.
I hardly even watch the series anymore tbh, I only just come in here when it's episode that peaks my interest. Otherwise, I just kind of ignore it's existence.
If I had to give a reason though, Sunk Cost Fallacy. Most people probably feel like they've invested so much time and effort into following the series and believing in it that moving on is an alien concept. They can't move on, so all they can do is just stay and hope for the best, even if it never actually comes.
A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Since last season, I have stopped watching it because I don't have any faith in it and just keep occasional updates. I was still watching it from the Kanto to parts of the Black and White era until I just stopped. I really can't keep watching a show that goes on endlessly with no real changes or endgame in sight.
edited 25th May '17 3:39:36 PM by firewriter
I haven't watched the SM anime for a long while. I got my finale with XYZ. That's why there has been a noticeable decrease in activity on this thread.
I'm only around for an occasional update on fan discussion and the I Choose You Movie.
edited 25th May '17 3:41:57 PM by Shadao
Heh.
...I see your point, but it still just makes it seem like Alain exists so that Ash can't hold that trophy himself.
After twenty years, any justification can see cheap in the face of their real reason for doing it. I applaud them for giving him the background prize of actually straight up defeating the evil team for a change.
One Strip! One Strip!