The Strange Case of the Missing Ads

Or, even if they don't resent it persay, may not have the disposable income to do it.

edit: Whoa, mega ninja'd.

edited 28th Oct '10 12:26:54 PM by Meeble

Am I OK in that for former member e-mail won't be required but they will have to revalidate their accounts somehow in order to preserve edit privileges?

edited 28th Oct '10 12:27:21 PM by Fighteer

THE WIKI JUST BROKE FOR ME

Is it working for anyone else?

Don't panic, it may just be FE implementing some of the changes he was mentioning earlier today.

edit: That is to say, I'm getting errors as well.

edited 28th Oct '10 12:29:07 PM by Meeble

It broke for me too. EVERYTHING IS COMPLETELY BLANK!

Yes, she be broken cap'n. Hang out for a bit, I'm sure Eddie's working on it.

Yeah, not showing up on my end. Let's wait for a few minutes and then see what we have on our hands.

@Silent Reverence: I don't think "former member" is the phrase you're looking for. In any case, here's a token medal for making good use of available possible resources to help this wiki.

edited 28th Oct '10 12:30:12 PM by MarqFJA

Aight, just making sure.

Ho hum.

//edit: Meanwhile, if you haven't yet, why don't you follow the link in my sig and express your opinions about a potential TV Tropes shop?

edited 28th Oct '10 12:30:20 PM by Aoede

↑I'm getting a zero-content for all pages, yet diff seems to work. Something may have broken temporarily.

@Marq: no offense but, well, save the medal for when after I discuss it with my teacher. We agreed so far only in that we are going to discuss the stuff, and with so little information I have if he can't point me in the right direction we're both gonna hit a brick wall.... Also, for darness moment, whatever Stack Overflow is, their site it is not responding to me. Got to the site. It is pretty similar to ours in its content definition and delivery method, so I think it is worth a checlk.

edited 28th Oct '10 12:40:38 PM by SilentReverence

It's just pmwiki.php that's out of commission, I think.

//edit: And edit.php, too. That makes sense.

edited 28th Oct '10 12:31:41 PM by Aoede

It seems to be working fine for me right now. Of course, now that I've said that I'm probably going to get hit now.

If we do require re-registration for the forums, will we lose any of the current content, or will the forums make it through the change intact? Also the avatar galleries.  ^*

edited 28th Oct '10 12:37:07 PM by JapaneseTeeth

Working for me now as well. Ho hum.

↑↑I don't see why we would lose profile content at least (but then again, if people have >50 avatars that may be a thing to do away with). From what I gather, it is just essentially adding the adequate fields and checking IA to the database.

That some forums and threads may go away, it is another matter.

edited 28th Oct '10 12:39:15 PM by SilentReverence

It's not re-registration. It's accepting the Terms of Service - whether you have a new account or an existing one, you still need to click "Accept". Once done, you'll be good to go.

Hmm... From what I remember, Stack Exchange is still largely supported by venture capital (I could be out of date, though). Not an option for us, probably.

(And I believe our bottleneck is in the processing- database servers, php scripts, the like. The raw bandwidth for serving static images is less significant.)

edited 28th Oct '10 12:40:27 PM by Tangent128

Stack Overflow looks up and looks like it has IT-oriented ads, much like every other IT-oriented site I've ever seen.

Okay cool; I know re-registration was mentioned at some point and just wondered now indepth it would be.

And yeah, those uber several-hundred image galleries could probably be cut if want to save bandwidth. Like limit it to 40 or something. Maybe a higher limit could be a donation perk or something.

edited 28th Oct '10 12:41:47 PM by JapaneseTeeth

Just having the images on the server only affects bandwidth when somebody views a gallery, which is a pretty minor hit, probably.

The galleries only take up disk space. Plus, I guess a minimal amount of bandwidth for people looking at them. Trivial from an overall perspective.

EDIT: Ninja'd.

edited 28th Oct '10 12:45:53 PM by Wulf

@634 Stack Overflow is extremely different from TV Tropes in terms of content. It'd be pretty much impossible to find questionable content there; there's little sex in programming

Yes, from what I gather, SE seems to be an IT-based community; however they mention they are expanding to some non-IT fields like cooking and have done so in some fields already with minor success.

The m.o. of the site seems to be pretty similar to ours: users "create" subjects on which they aggregate documentation of, one subdomain per overall subject. Unlike ours, which is based on enumeration, theirs is based on Q&A. As it stands, their adverstising model seems to be based on getting an overall ad provider, from which ads are segregated based on their reach across the different themed subdomains.

I'll try to get in touch with someone at the site to try and confirm this impression as to how to they plan to get their adverstising for the non-IT based subcommunities. Based fro what I read above, yeah, it may not be something that we can imitate (ie.: no venture capital), but it can still be something that we can model things after to clear somewhat the dependency between the ads and the content, which makes me remember Freezair For A Limited Time's (I think it was him/her) plan about sectioning namespaces and subject per subdomains — and that would help us enforce the veils. Although from what I read it is a PITA to set up.

Getting off this thread for a while. I'm expecting about 120 posts until I come back.

@Marq: no offense but, well, save the medal for when after I discuss it with my teacher. We agreed so far only in that we are going to discuss the stuff, and with so little information I have if he can't point me in the right direction we're both gonna hit a brick wall.... Also, for darness moment, whatever Stack Overflow is, their site it is not responding to me. Got to the site. It is pretty similar to ours in its content definition and delivery method, so I think it is worth a checlk.

Okay, okay, it's just that AFAIK, Fast Eddie has been the only troper with the technical know-how to work on a possible fix for the site's current crisis. Any helpful suggestions from someone else who also has sufficient expertise in similar/related matters would be a godsend to Fast Eddie's current search for a viable solution.

... Wait, I thought SE stood for "Software Engineering". Dammit, now I feel stupid

edited 28th Oct '10 12:49:32 PM by MarqFJA

He's the only one who can actually fix anything, aside from Janitor of course, and backseat programming is kinda irritating.

how will this affect the mentioning and linking/potholing of the segregated Tropes on otherwise Non-Objectional pages?