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The Strange Case of the Missing Ads:

 626 Meeble, Thu, 28th Oct '10 12:26:21 PM from the ruins of Granseal
likes the cheeses.
Or, even if they don't resent it persay, may not have the disposable income to do it.

edit: Whoa, mega ninja'd.

edited 28th Oct '10 12:26:54 PM by Meeble

Visit my contributor page to assist with the "I Like The Cheeses" project!
 627 Fighteer, Thu, 28th Oct '10 12:26:57 PM from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Am I OK in that for former member e-mail won't be required but they will have to revalidate their accounts somehow in order to preserve edit privileges?
Correct in both cases. All wiki editors will need to accept a Terms of Service before being admitted to the site; this includes existing editors. Also, we currently have no plans to require email registration for future accounts, either.

edited 28th Oct '10 12:27:21 PM by Fighteer

Neoclassicism, AKA the Tinkerbell school of economics.
 628 Aoede, Thu, 28th Oct '10 12:27:51 PM from tiptop scrublot
THE WIKI JUST BROKE FOR ME

Is it working for anyone else?
survival of the tight-lipped
 629 Meeble, Thu, 28th Oct '10 12:28:43 PM from the ruins of Granseal
likes the cheeses.
Don't panic, it may just be FE implementing some of the changes he was mentioning earlier today.

edit: That is to say, I'm getting errors as well.

edited 28th Oct '10 12:29:07 PM by Meeble

Visit my contributor page to assist with the "I Like The Cheeses" project!
It broke for me too. EVERYTHING IS COMPLETELY BLANK!
Currently taking a break from the site. See my user page for more information.
 631 Fighteer, Thu, 28th Oct '10 12:28:49 PM from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Yes, she be broken cap'n. Hang out for a bit, I'm sure Eddie's working on it.
Neoclassicism, AKA the Tinkerbell school of economics.
 632 Marq FJA, Thu, 28th Oct '10 12:29:07 PM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
Yeah, not showing up on my end. Let's wait for a few minutes and then see what we have on our hands.

@Silent Reverence: I don't think "former member" is the phrase you're looking for. In any case, here's a token [awesome] medal for making good use of available possible resources to help this wiki. smile

edited 28th Oct '10 12:30:12 PM by MarqFJA

Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
 633 Aoede, Thu, 28th Oct '10 12:29:35 PM from tiptop scrublot
Aight, just making sure.

Ho hum.

//edit: Meanwhile, if you haven't yet, why don't you follow the link in my sig and express your opinions about a potential TV Tropes shop?

edited 28th Oct '10 12:30:20 PM by Aoede

survival of the tight-lipped
 634 Silent Reverence, Thu, 28th Oct '10 12:29:45 PM from 3 tiles right 1 tile up
adopting kitteh
↑I'm getting a zero-content for all pages, yet diff seems to work. Something may have broken temporarily.

@Marq: no offense but, well, save the medal for when after I discuss it with my teacher. We agreed so far only in that we are going to discuss the stuff, and with so little information I have if he can't point me in the right direction we're both gonna hit a brick wall.... Also, for darness moment, whatever Stack Overflow is, their site it is not responding to me. Got to the site. It is pretty similar to ours in its content definition and delivery method, so I think it is worth a checlk.

edited 28th Oct '10 12:40:38 PM by SilentReverence

 635 Aoede, Thu, 28th Oct '10 12:31:01 PM from tiptop scrublot
It's just pmwiki.php that's out of commission, I think.

//edit: And edit.php, too. That makes sense.

edited 28th Oct '10 12:31:41 PM by Aoede

survival of the tight-lipped
 636 Japanese Teeth, Thu, 28th Oct '10 12:35:41 PM from Meinong's jungle Relationship Status: Mu
Nice to meet you. I'm an assassin.
It seems to be working fine for me right now. Of course, now that I've said that I'm probably going to get hit now.tongue

If we do require re-registration for the forums, will we lose any of the current content, or will the forums make it through the change intact? Also the avatar galleries.  *.

edited 28th Oct '10 12:37:07 PM by JapaneseTeeth

 637 Aoede, Thu, 28th Oct '10 12:37:04 PM from tiptop scrublot
Working for me now as well. Ho hum.
survival of the tight-lipped
 638 Silent Reverence, Thu, 28th Oct '10 12:38:37 PM from 3 tiles right 1 tile up
adopting kitteh
↑↑I don't see why we would lose profile content at least (but then again, if people have >50 avatars that may be a thing to do away with). From what I gather, it is just essentially adding the adequate fields and checking IA to the database.

That some forums and threads may go away, it is another matter.

edited 28th Oct '10 12:39:15 PM by SilentReverence

 639 Fighteer, Thu, 28th Oct '10 12:38:45 PM from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
It's not re-registration. It's accepting the Terms of Service - whether you have a new account or an existing one, you still need to click "Accept". Once done, you'll be good to go.
Neoclassicism, AKA the Tinkerbell school of economics.
 640 Tangent 128, Thu, 28th Oct '10 12:39:16 PM from Virginia Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
dy/dx
Hmm... From what I remember, Stack Exchange is still largely supported by venture capital (I could be out of date, though). Not an option for us, probably.

(And I believe our bottleneck is in the processing- database servers, php scripts, the like. The raw bandwidth for serving static images is less significant.)

edited 28th Oct '10 12:40:27 PM by Tangent128

Conversation is a contact sport.
 641 Tzetze, Thu, 28th Oct '10 12:39:23 PM from a converted church in Venice, Italy
DUMB
Stack Overflow looks up and looks like it has IT-oriented ads, much like every other IT-oriented site I've ever seen.
 642 Japanese Teeth, Thu, 28th Oct '10 12:40:39 PM from Meinong's jungle Relationship Status: Mu
Nice to meet you. I'm an assassin.
[up][up][up]Okay cool; I know re-registration was mentioned at some point and just wondered now indepth it would be.

And yeah, those uber several-hundred image galleries could probably be cut if want to save bandwidth. Like limit it to 40 or something. Maybe a higher limit could be a donation perk or something.

edited 28th Oct '10 12:41:47 PM by JapaneseTeeth

 643 Tzetze, Thu, 28th Oct '10 12:43:15 PM from a converted church in Venice, Italy
DUMB
Just having the images on the server only affects bandwidth when somebody views a gallery, which is a pretty minor hit, probably.
 644 Fighteer, Thu, 28th Oct '10 12:43:56 PM from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
The galleries only take up disk space. Plus, I guess a minimal amount of bandwidth for people looking at them. Trivial from an overall perspective.
Neoclassicism, AKA the Tinkerbell school of economics.
 645 Wulf, Thu, 28th Oct '10 12:45:26 PM from Louisiana
Gotta trope, dood!
EDIT: Ninja'd.

edited 28th Oct '10 12:45:53 PM by Wulf

They lost me. Forgot me. Made you from parts of me. If you're the One, my father's son, what am I supposed to be?
 646 Sandbylur, Thu, 28th Oct '10 12:45:43 PM Relationship Status: Drift compatible
@634 Stack Overflow is extremely different from TV Tropes in terms of content. It'd be pretty much impossible to find questionable content there; there's little sex in programming
"You can't be charged with meaning to do something you didn't mean to do." — Madrugada
 647 Silent Reverence, Thu, 28th Oct '10 12:46:30 PM from 3 tiles right 1 tile up
adopting kitteh
Yes, from what I gather, SE seems to be an IT-based community; however they mention they are expanding to some non-IT fields like cooking and have done so in some fields already with minor success.

The m.o. of the site seems to be pretty similar to ours: users "create" subjects on which they aggregate documentation of, one subdomain per overall subject. Unlike ours, which is based on enumeration, theirs is based on Q&A. As it stands, their adverstising model seems to be based on getting an overall ad provider, from which ads are segregated based on their reach across the different themed subdomains.

I'll try to get in touch with someone at the site to try and confirm this impression as to how to they plan to get their adverstising for the non-IT based subcommunities. Based fro what I read above, yeah, it may not be something that we can imitate (ie.: no venture capital), but it can still be something that we can model things after to clear somewhat the dependency between the ads and the content, which makes me remember Freezair For A Limited Time's (I think it was him/her) plan about sectioning namespaces and subject per subdomains — and that would help us enforce the veils. Although from what I read it is a PITA to set up.

Getting off this thread for a while. I'm expecting about 120 posts until I come back.
 648 Marq FJA, Thu, 28th Oct '10 12:46:52 PM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
@Marq: no offense but, well, save the medal for when after I discuss it with my teacher. We agreed so far only in that we are going to discuss the stuff, and with so little information I have if he can't point me in the right direction we're both gonna hit a brick wall.... Also, for darness moment, whatever Stack Overflow is, their site it is not responding to me. Got to the site. It is pretty similar to ours in its content definition and delivery method, so I think it is worth a checlk.

Okay, okay, it's just that AFAIK, Fast Eddie has been the only troper with the technical know-how to work on a possible fix for the site's current crisis. Any helpful suggestions from someone else who also has sufficient expertise in similar/related matters would be a godsend to Fast Eddie's current search for a viable solution.

... Wait, I thought SE stood for "Software Engineering". Dammit, now I feel stupid

edited 28th Oct '10 12:49:32 PM by MarqFJA

Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
 649 Tzetze, Thu, 28th Oct '10 12:48:22 PM from a converted church in Venice, Italy
DUMB
He's the only one who can actually fix anything, aside from Janitor of course, and backseat programming is kinda irritating. wink
Dracula
how will this affect the mentioning and linking/potholing of the segregated Tropes on otherwise Non-Objectional pages?
We must survive, all of us. The blood of a human for me, a cooked bird for you. Where is the difference?
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