Iji

You fought Asha 2 in extreme? There was no way I'd want to do that. I played as a pacifist on my extreme run.

EDIT: Oh, yes. And welcome.

edited 7th Jun '09 1:39:17 AM by Sabbo

By the way, what does and doesn't count as a kill at the end of sector 8?

You can save Dan without breaking Pacifism. I don't know how I did it, though. I think because any kills you do are indirect.

It counts as a kill if you shoot the minion. It doesn't if you place the trapmine, since (in-game at least) you can't predict the future, it's not as if you placed it knowing someone was about to come along..... What I haven't tested yet is if you get a kill if you use the trapmine to kill someone earlier in the sector, in addition to having to shoot the minion, I mean.

Oh, and I fought Asha 2 on Extreme as well. With maxed Health and Assimilate, the fight is a breeze. I didn't find it necessary to increase Attack, but it can't hurt....

Using the trapmine earlier doesn't count as a kill, so at least they're consistent. And I don't think I've actually thrown my hat in yet to agree that Asha 2 is the game's hardest boss.

BTW, Asha 2 with the Null Driver active is fuuuuuuuun. I dare you to not get confused and shoot at thin air at least once.

lazyfox: Is that an SD Iji avatar???

"lazyfox: Is that an SD Iji avatar??? "

This might sound stupid, but what does SD stand for?

edited 7th Jun '09 11:16:01 PM by lazyfox

SD = Super Deformed. Quite similar to chibi, except I usually use "chibi X" to say "a small version of X" while I use SD for something that was always chibi in the first place.

Using this terminology, he's asking if your avatar is a chibi Iji.

"Using this terminology, he's asking if your avatar is a chibi Iji. "

Oh, well then yes, I guess you could call it that.

If you're curious, I made the main body here. However, I added the details (nanogun, pant-pockets, background) myself.

Vilui: I tried upgrading Assimilate at first, but I couldn't find enough ammo for the bustergun to really make it useful (not only that, but I also had to upgrade some cracking, so I wasn't even able to max assimilate with the points I had). By maxing out attack, I was able to take out chunks of Asha's life at a faster rate, even with just the shotgun. I guess my strategy was making a single shot do more damage, instead of gathering tons of ammo to continuously wail on an enemy with. Either strategy works, if you can do it right.

Sabbo: My original plan was to do the exact same thing, only I found out that I didn't get enough points to do it.

Also, I'm sorry if this question is asked a lot, but how do you quote somebody with the quote box?

edited 8th Jun '09 1:25:21 AM by lazyfox

Like this!

((quoteblock)) Text here ((/quoteblock))

just replace the circular brackets with square ones, though.

edited 8th Jun '09 1:27:26 AM by Pacific

That's fair. I had to specifically plan my way, and milk as much nano as I could out of the enemies, to get enough.

Although, I (intentionally) didn't reboot. Made it a bit harder.

edited 8th Jun '09 2:01:16 AM by Sabbo

If Let's Play taught me anything, an aggressive run with reboots seems one of the best ways to reach secrets.

But no rebooting adds so much spice to some of the challenges on this game :) Now I never reboot if I can possibly help it.

I'm feeling psyched out at the moment as I've just completed a run I wasn't sure in advance would even be possible — I wanted to find all the remaining secrets and unlockables in one run, which for me was getting all supercharges, Nanomaster and the Scrambler. The Scrambler required me to put all my spare points at that stage into Health, so I could only get 4 Assimilate for Proxima (and no more than 1 Attack) and I wasn't sure it would be enough. It was. (In fact, by the end of Sector 7 when I couldn't get more ammo anyway, I had enough points to reach Health 9, and maybe 3/10 would have been a wiser combination. I don't know.)

My winning strategy for Proxima was to spam Plasma Cannon until he started charging the Nuke, then waste him with the Velocithor, then when both of those were exhausted I started using the Devastator. I'd tried starting with the Devastator, but I always lost so much health when its recoil stopped me avoiding an attack, I figured the other way round was an improvement.

Lazyfox: my suggestion of maxing Assimilate for the Asha 2 fight was more for the health pickups rather than for ammo. (I've more or less forgotten that the Buster Gun exists, to be honest.)

edited 8th Jun '09 4:57:24 AM by Vilui

What's the difference between chibi and SD anyway?

Our page on it treats chibi and SD as the same thing, at least.

So is the version of the Nuke you can get a projectile, or do you lay it on the floor and run away? (Or stand on top of it if you want to Rocket Jump?)

Neither. You press fire and instantly everyone on screen (except you) takes 5 HP damage, and you get knocked flying. It can also kill enemies who are only slightly offscreen, so pacifist-runners beware.

Yeah, that happened to me, once. I tried to use the Nuke to get the poster, only to realize that I was in my Pacifist file, and had killed some enemies. I had to exit, and load up my Aggressor file. I found the following poster conversation between Iji and Dan to be humorous.

Wait, which poster is this?

I remember that there's, somewhere, a ledge high up that you can't shoot, but that you can't get onto because there's glass blocking its edge. And you can't shoot it either.

edited 9th Jun '09 8:26:12 AM by GlennMagusHarvey

@Glenn: There are two places like that, (Well... three, kinda.) and they both require the same weapon to get to. If you want to know, I'll just say here that you need to use the combination weapon of weapons 2 & 7.

The third one, where this weapon is not used, is Sector 3.

I think lazyfox is talking about the tenth poster. Reaching it requires a "nuke jump" across a gap, but there are just-out-of-sight enemies below the gap that will be killed. I have a hunch that it may, however, be possible to get them out of the way before making the jump; I haven't tested this yet.

Yeah, I was talking about the tenth poster.

Confirmed: it is possible to get that poster without kills. Simplest way is to stand in the middle of the three Komato so their Shocksplinters hurt themselves; I took 10 damage by the time I got them down but it's probably possible with less.

That leaves the third and fifth posters as the only ones impossible to get on a pacifist run. Among the supercharges, the only doubtful one is the eighth; I suspect it could be done by cracking the Annihilators but it would take an extreme amount of luck and patience.

Is five really impossible? I know it's hard without abusing the nuke, but is there actually a glass ceiling you need the nuke to break? Plus you can definitely get a Splintergun by level 5 if you want one, so even that shouldn't stop you.