Bleach

I want to know what Hitsugaya felt about being a zombie cause he wasn't complaining, or maybe he's wanted to kill Mayuri that much for awhile.

Hitsugaya was zombified before death. That means that, unlike with Bambietta, his personality was erased. He was still able to feel emotions though, like confusion or how he didn't want to end up as Mayuri's lab rat and also pain.

The actual living Bambietta begged Giselle not to turn her into a zombie. What Bambietta says now that she's the slave of an abusive crazy person doesn't matter.

Which goes against the fact we learn she was sane and afraid of death, so she was clearly lying, most likely because to be a zombie still requires her to die even for a moment. But either way she dies.

The bigger issue is the intentionally kept brain damage.

Giselle said that she is going to fix that though. A few drops of her blood and everything should be fine. Question is when. Though she is able to function like a normal human being for the most time (desire for blood notwithstanding) and gave a rather insightful soliloquy about her observations of Ruddbonn's Calaveras.

Edit:

Also the reason for Hisagi's lack of money has been revealed: Urahara charges money for gasoline for his motorbike. Also Hanataro's brother can heal by rejecting events like Orihime.

edited 22nd Jul '17 4:13:40 PM by bandersnitch

That motorbike was originally confiscated from him. I guess Yamamoto's death got it returned to him.

I thought I didn't mind Hisagi in the manga, but this whole thing with the novels has made me realise that I really hate the idea of a story revolving around him. He's fine as a side character, but I don't like him as a main one.

Why?

Hisagi being the MC is a necessary evil. From what I can gather is that Narita originally only planned to create a smaller scale conflict that would be solely about the murder of Tosen's friends. Reading his other stories makes it clear that this is something Narita really wants to resolve. But thanks to the rushed ending, he also got the task of solving all the mysteries. So, he decided to combine to birds with a stone.

Though honestly, while Hisagi is the central character, it doesn't really feel like he is the only MC. The novel really feels like an ensemble ala Durarara. The focus constantly shifts between Hisagi, Shunsui, Ginjou, the Espada and the Sternritter. They all have their individual plots that probably will converge at some point. And in the past the focus shifts towards Aizen and Tosen. Not to mention that so far the antagonists, Tokinada and Michibana also have their individual stories that so far do not seem to be connected.

Eh, I don't mind the narrative reason for Hisagi being the 'main character' who is uncovering the truth in the story at all — he's effectively Soul Society's top journalist, so it makes complete sense to me.

It just makes me realise I don't like the idea of him as a main character, that's all. I think it's just because he's not a cool kid. He's a try-hard who desperately wants to be the cool kid, but ends up trying so hard that he misses what being cool really is by a wide mile. He does have one or two genuinely cool moments, but that's when he's stopped trying.

I guess the artwork of him reminds me of how he felt to me in the manga, which reminded me of all the teenagers I remember when I was in school who thought they were cool, or desperately wanted to be cool — people who were genuinely nice until they tried to play up for others, whereupon they just became pitiable or irritating instead until they cut the crap.

That's what Hisagi's always been to me: the kid who is trying to mimic the cool adults but who hasn't yet grown up. In short, a teenager.

edited 23rd Jul '17 8:57:49 AM by Wyldchyld

Is that because of his actual character or because Narita sucks at actually writing cool characters?

Hisagi never mattered to me, so I couldn't be assed to examine anything about his character.

That's the manga Hisagi I'm describing. The artwork for Narita's novel just reminded me of how I felt. :)

If anything, from what I'm seeing in these translations of the novel, Narita's writing is giving me the same feeling about Hisagi that I got from the manga.... so I guess that means that, as far as I'm concerned, he's writing Hisagi pretty true to how Kubo wrote him.

Random question, but how strong do we think Wonderweiss was relative to the Espada? Yamamoto took him out pretty easily barehanded, but that's not really a good indicator of strength because Yamamoto is Yamamoto.

Judging by the way the top Espada reacted to his arrival and Kyoraku's assessment of that reaction as Wonderweiss being there to back them, and the ease at which he levelled the playing field for both Starrk and Harribel, I'd have to say that Wonderweiss probably surpassed the top Espada in power.

That seemed to be the whole point of him. He had sacrificed absolutely everything to obtain unbelievable power just so he could fight Yamamoto.... but, because Aizen underestimated Yamamoto, even Wonderweiss's power level wasn't enough to deal with the old man.

The gap between Yamamoto and the other Captains must be pretty ridiculous in that case; even Aizen said he didn't want to fight him one on one, hence Wonderweiss.

I don't think Aizen ever intended for him to fight Yamamoto - just seal Ryujin Jakka. He didn't seem the least bit perturbed by Wonderweiss being overpowered.

Still, I agree he's very powerful. He was misidentified as an Espada when he showed up to fight Hitsugaya's squad, and he briefly took Urahara by surprise. Then at FKT he slipped right past Kyoraku and Ukitake's defences and one-shot Ukitake.

Still, Hollowfied Mashiro and Bankai Kensei were able to smack him around in his sealed form.

Should've elaborated more: Aizen apparently wanted Wonderweiss to seal RJ because Aizen didn't want to fight Yamamoto if he had it. Aizen already had the Plot Marble by this point too. Yowza.

Though, wasn't the main point for him to seal away the flames of Yamamoto's Shikai, and then act as a time bomb when it turned out that the flames were sealed in him, and that breaking him was bad idea?

Yeah, exactly. And we saw what Yamamoto could do if his zan wasn't sealed: just nuke the fucking place.

Which is what he was planning on doing anyways, before Wonderweiss showed up.

Given that not one but both Big Bads chose dirty tricks over fighting him directly, I'm willing to bet Bankai Yamamoto was the most powerful non-Soul King character in the series, save maybe Mugetsu Ichigo and Ichibe.

Eh. Neither Aizen nor Yhwach were at their best when they fought Yamamoto.

There's no reason Soul King Yhwach would be weaker than him, and Aizen's breakdown makes a lot less sense if both he and Ichigo (especially) are weaker than Yamamoto.

edited 26th Jul '17 7:50:42 PM by Saiga

Well technically, Ichigo by end was at least as strong as his Post-Dangai state, as said by Yhwach himself, though I think he said he had gained even greater power than that.

You mean shouldn't be weaker?