Bleach

Yore joking

My point is that he actually started believing himself to be YHWH, and he wasn't actually capable of creating a New Heavens and a New Earth. His plans brought to fruition would simply have destroyed everything.

Surprisingly, that wasn't bad. So, I'm not feeling #triggered.

He doesn't believe himself to be YHWH. That's the point of his name. The Quincy named him after the god the prayed to, but he changed the name to Yhwach in order to give himself his own identity. While many characters referred Yhwach as a god, Yhwach himself never did actually.

Also how do you want to know that he wasn't capable? Given what Yhwach has shown so far, I would say he is more than capable of creating that new world. Why do you think he would've destroyed everything? Yhwach's world without death can work, simply because that was the world before the lynchpin existed. It's not even something theoretical/hypothetical. It's something Yhwach knew could work, since it already worked in the past.

Throughout the entire War Arc, Yhwach has never done anything to benefit anyone but himself. Even his gifts of power and healing ultimately kill the recipients to give Yhwach more power/life force. Creating a world without death not only seems antithetical to everything Yhwach has ever done, it also seems to contradict the way his powers work. Therefore, I posit that only Yhwach himself would be able to live in such a world, if indeed it was even possible for him to create it.

Plus,you know.His last threat to everyone about choosing the moment when they're at their happiest and slaughtering them.Kinda hard to do in a deathless world.

He'd only do that if they tried to stop him from doing it. Kill them now before he can't.

This is what makes the Still Silver arrow feel like such an Ass Pull.

I don't see how. And being unsatisfying isn't the same thing as being an ass pull.

Eh,I feel like the arrow would still be a thing,even with an extra 30 chaps.Would've liked Uryuu to use his Schrift in collaboration with it,but oh well.

It's implied that he did - it's how Yhwach couldn't notice him.

How does that work? Uryu's Shrift was basically Swapping what was happening to him to m with someone else, wasn't it?

He basically swapped himself as the target of the future seeing, so that Yhwach sees the future of sombody else, I think. The Antithesis somehow made Uryuu immune to the Auswahlen, so it might've also made him immune to the Almighty the same way. Unless of course Haschwalth lied again.

Reversing things that happened, essentially, so when Yhwach is like "in the future, this happened" the antithesis is "yeah, but not to me lol"

Did anyone else feel that Orihime and Chad got the short end of the stick during this final arc?

Not Orihime. She got to be the assist character for the final boss fight, which is WAY more than I expected of her.

true, I would have guessed at the beginning of the arc that all Orihime would contribute is a "come back safely...... *Ichi leaves* I love you" to the final battle.

They got the short end of the stick throughout the series, period.

Though in terms of end of series fame, Chad fared well, and Orihime got a stick that would make Saiga jealous.

"nothing more than a housewife" some people are fine with that.

edited 18th Sep '16 10:10:49 PM by wanderlustwarrior

Yeah Chad is apparently a world famous boxer while even she's happy about her life Orihime appears to be nothing more than a housewife married to a probable retired samurai who may or may not be a doctor or medical practitioner of some kind.

I think its clear who got the short end of the stick there, heheh.

edited 18th Sep '16 10:02:34 PM by slimcoder

We don't know that's the case at all, and we have hints that the opposite is true. We know that the current system of world boundaries stems from the Soul King and the Soul King was created by the Shinigami to organise the flow of souls.

We therefore know that there was a state of existence that predates the Soul King and the worlds were structured differently as a result. However, in that pre-Soul King existence, the Shinigami felt they couldn't be effective, something they can be while the Soul King exists.

Initially, Yhwach was stated to be trying to return to the pre-Soul King state of existence. In the end, he was stated to be trying to destroy death (and it certainly explains why he was so determined to kill off people he didn't want before his vision succeeded - after all, a deathless world means he can't get rid of the people he doesn't want to share that world with).

The two statements aren't necessarily mutually exclusive because it depends on whether the pre-Soul King era was a 'deathless' one. Muken itself is implied to be some kind of deathless realm where people are imprisoned who cannot die by normal means, so there are hints that things under the current system still don't fit perfectly into the existence the Shinigami have created. The Shinigami also stated that the flow of souls under the pre-Soul King system was too chaotic for them to cope with, suggesting there was some kind of reincarnation cycle, but not the kind we currently understand.

Also, it's worth remembering that, since the Shinigami changed the previous world into the current one by constructing the Soul King, whatever world Yhwach wanted to create was never guaranteed to be a permanent state of existence. If it was changed once before, it could potentially be changed in the future, too. That was the point Komamura's ancestor made, anyway.

The truth is implied to lie somewhere between the Shinigami's and Yhwach's positions, but given how rushed the ending was, we may never understand Kubo's original plan and exactly what he had to drop to come up with the ending we have.

There have been theories ever since the EBTR flashback that Katagiri's death and Ryuken's secret would be connected to some kind of special one-shot arrow that would be used on Yhwach at a critical moment. The theory was weaponised residual reiatsu and it grew wings after Uryu's flashback to his mother's autopsy occurred. The silver blood clot wasn't foreseen, but a special arrow connected to Katagiri's death being rammed down Yhwach's throat was.

edited 19th Sep '16 8:56:29 AM by Wyldchyld

Their last hurrah was the Fullbring Arc, and we know how that ended.

Chad is apparently a world famous boxer

Let's see how happy about that he is once the brain damage starts kicking in.

I mean, how many humans are actually able to hit him harder than a Hollow or Soul Reaper could? Hell, even before he got his powers he had a massive steel beam fall on his shoulders/back, and he was pretty much fine after that.

Yeah Chad is perfectly safe. He's also a massive cheater given that he's a superhuman participating in muggle competitions.