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Saiga (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#79801: May 1st 2016 at 7:21:12 PM

Apparently most of the Espada were Vasto Lorde. Though really, I could only definitely see 1-4 being them, with maybe Nnoitra and Grimmjow, assuming Grimmjow evolved beyond the point that we saw him in his flashback.

Yammy makes no sense either way.

Not only did we have Ulquiorra's backstory showing him as a VL, but the silhouette given for the VL was extremely similar to him. The Adjuchas silhouette was similar to Yammy, though not as much.

I think that 1 - 5 were VL at least. It's easy to overlook how strong Nnoitora is because we didn't know how Kenpachi's power worked, but after releasing his Zanpakuto, he was able to one-shot Kenpachi without the eyepatch. This iteration of Kenpachi had easily overpowered Tosen with his eyepatch on. It looked like Kenpachi was actually stronger all along, but now we know that he'd been received power ups when he came close to death, and Nnoitora brought one out of him.

On the other hand, that could still be an Adjuchas' strength. Ulquiorra mentioned that most Espada sacrificed high-speed regeneration to gain more power, but he retained his. So Adjuchas that abandon their regeneration could become close to a VL in power who doesn't do that.

Yammy's a weird case, because he doesn't have a human size in his release form and his power is variable. To fit the "most" comment, I'd just assume he's a VL as well.

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#79802: May 1st 2016 at 7:23:49 PM

Yammy's final form, presumably closest to how he looked as a Hollow, was humanoid, albeit fat, but on the other hand the example silhouette used for an Adjuchas was his.

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Saiga (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#79803: May 1st 2016 at 7:27:41 PM

It's not about being humanoid, it's about human size. Hitsugaya specifically states Vasto Lordes are about the size of humans (meaning Barragan's original hollow form fits as well).

Adjuchas are mentioned as being much smaller than Gillians, which Yammy doesn't really fit either.

edited 1st May '16 7:32:01 PM by Saiga

HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
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#79804: May 1st 2016 at 7:54:52 PM

All we know is that Yammy isn't a Gillian because Aaronierro was the only Gillian. Maybe Yammy was a Superchunky, whatever those actually are.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#79805: May 1st 2016 at 8:16:11 PM

In retrospect, Aaroniero being the only Gillain but still be ranked higher than Yammy could have been a hint to Yammy's true status. I doubt it was but you never know.

@Saiga, I actually mentioned Ulquiorra's side story a couple of posts down and how that showed him as a Vasto Lorde.

@Ogodei, I wouldn't be surprised if Yoruichi was bisexual.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#79806: May 1st 2016 at 8:17:48 PM

Yoruichi is bisexual, but only for other cats. Humans are gross.

Saiga (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#79807: May 1st 2016 at 8:18:10 PM

[up][up]Oh I know, that's why I mentioned it.

edited 1st May '16 8:52:05 PM by Saiga

Adannor from effin' belarus Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
#79808: May 2nd 2016 at 5:55:47 AM

"Not only did we have Ulquiorra's backstory showing him as a VL, but the silhouette given for the VL was extremely similar to him. The Adjuchas silhouette was similar to Yammy, though not as much. "

IIRC Adjucas silhouette was 1-1 match for one of the schmucks down in the forest.

Saiga (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#79809: May 2nd 2016 at 5:58:35 AM

Said schmuck was likely designed by the anime team based off the silhouette then, because it wasn't in Kubo's notes provided to them.

FrozenWolf2 Horni Demon LORD from HORNI LAND Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#79810: May 2nd 2016 at 7:47:41 AM

So... its out early

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#79811: May 2nd 2016 at 7:55:38 AM

I have to wonder if he's serious about Orihime actually contributing here.

Gilphon Untrustworthy from The Third Sound Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#79812: May 2nd 2016 at 7:58:21 AM

Wonder where Chad went.

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#79813: May 2nd 2016 at 8:03:22 AM

Ichigo's far too overconfident going into this

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HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
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#79814: May 2nd 2016 at 8:07:42 AM

So what can kill Gerard, I wonder?

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Adannor from effin' belarus Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
#79815: May 2nd 2016 at 8:12:33 AM

Renji. He already downed one constantly regenerating guy, after all.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#79816: May 2nd 2016 at 8:16:35 AM

Pointblank annihilation.

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FrozenWolf2 Horni Demon LORD from HORNI LAND Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#79817: May 2nd 2016 at 8:24:38 AM

Brute force does not work

So they have to think of something else outside of ridiculous amounts of harm granted only a few shinigami do something other then hit problem till it goes away.

Maybe they should to making peace with Gerard..

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edited 2nd May '16 8:25:20 AM by FrozenWolf2

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#79818: May 2nd 2016 at 8:33:57 AM

At this point the only way I could feasibly see him lose is if he joined sides or another part of the Soul King appeared that can counter The Heart the Miracle.

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#79819: May 2nd 2016 at 8:50:44 AM

Hachi could use his Kido on him.It works similar to Inoue's rejections doesn't it?

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#79820: May 2nd 2016 at 9:22:11 AM

[up] Did he keep that Senesencia-infected arm? Might come in handy about now.

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#79821: May 2nd 2016 at 9:36:01 AM

Someone refresh my memory, please: Were Inoue's hair decorations always in the shape of the six-pointed Quincy star?

Gilphon Untrustworthy from The Third Sound Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#79822: May 2nd 2016 at 9:50:07 AM

...They always looked like a six-pointed star, yes.

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Adannor from effin' belarus Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
#79823: May 2nd 2016 at 10:54:04 AM

[up][up][up]No, it decomposed inside Barry.

FrozenWolf2 Horni Demon LORD from HORNI LAND Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#79824: May 2nd 2016 at 10:56:18 AM

What would that say about Hachi if he kept his rotting arm!

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shadowblack Since: Jun, 2010
#79825: May 2nd 2016 at 12:12:03 PM

[up][up][up]Thanks, Gilphon! Now I can't help but wonder if that little detail will turn out to be important...


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