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Filby Some Guy from Western Massachusetts Since: Jan, 2001
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#2726: Nov 12th 2012 at 2:16:49 PM

I find the stuff about Iron Man and counterculture very interesting.

I don't know how much Jack Kirby had to do with Iron Man besides designing his costume, but I know he was really into the '60s counterculture. Hippies are always portrayed in a positive light in his comics, and his series The Forever People for DC was basically a love letter to the flower generation.

As for Stan Lee himself, he's always struck me as pretty apolitical. I'd bet him writing Spider-Man supporting protesters wasn't necessarily because he himself did, but because A) it made sense for the character, and B) Stan recognized young counterculture supporters as potential buyers and wanted to market to them.

For what it's worth, my father was a pretty big hippie back in the '60s and held liberal/counterculture views for the rest of his life, and he was a huge Iron Man fan.

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BigMadDraco Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#2727: Nov 12th 2012 at 2:47:59 PM

It really helps that at its core Iron Man is a story of redemption. One man seeing the war he supported from a distance witnessing first hand and going on different path because of it (the film enhanced that by making the weapons that killed the soldiers and wounded Tony be of his own design).

0dd1 Just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2009
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#2728: Nov 12th 2012 at 4:36:05 PM

Just a note on that note he put in the credits, that's not necessarily true that the song "Iron Man" has nothing to do with the character Iron Man. True, the lyrical content isn't actually about Tony Stark, but the name of the song comes from the name of the character (as Ozzy Osbourne was a big fan of the comics, IIRC).

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stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#2730: Nov 19th 2012 at 6:13:57 PM

Only half way through the review, but the comic's plot seems like a Kids Next Door plot.

phoenixdaughterAM Wiping All Out from Cursed college Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
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#2731: Nov 19th 2012 at 6:32:03 PM

"Not a lead among them huh? Better round up the usual sunfish." That made me smile.

-laughs happily at Aqualad's awesomeness- "Ha! The town is mine now suckers!"

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llawliet L Lawliet from Central City Since: Jun, 2009
L Lawliet
#2733: Nov 21st 2012 at 6:36:25 AM

I loved his rant about how Aquaman is not useless.

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GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#2734: Nov 21st 2012 at 6:59:18 AM

I agree. It's getting stale.

ROTHY Since: Feb, 2011
#2735: Nov 21st 2012 at 7:04:52 AM

He's only still perceived as useless by non-comic fans and Raj.

llawliet L Lawliet from Central City Since: Jun, 2009
L Lawliet
#2736: Nov 21st 2012 at 7:19:15 AM

He once threw a polar bear at some poachers. When you see someone do that you don't call that person useless.

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Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#2737: Nov 22nd 2012 at 4:49:51 AM

I wish he still had his post Blackest Night powers. Where he controlled undead sealife. I mean a fucking zombie shark.

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#2738: Nov 22nd 2012 at 5:46:32 AM

[up] Oh, and being able to control a non-zombie shark isn't anything special?

Honestly, I kind of find it OUTRAGEOUS that people still can't take Aquaman seriously. Dude's badass.

Anyone who assigns themselves loads of character tropes is someone to be worried about.
deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#2739: Nov 22nd 2012 at 5:53:09 AM

Oh, man. Aqualad from WesternAnimation.Teen Titans is sexy-awesome, because that's totes a thing.

stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#2740: Nov 22nd 2012 at 9:51:03 AM

The "Aquaman is awesome not worthless" thing comes up often enough now it's kinda lost its effect.

Shiningknight S.E.A captain from Professor Xavier's school for gifted lesbians. Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#2741: Nov 22nd 2012 at 10:31:17 AM

especially as new 52 aquaman would stick his trident through a bitch if someone said that to him now. Hell it was revealed he eats fish!!![lol]

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0dd1 Just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2009
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#2742: Nov 22nd 2012 at 12:42:47 PM

Hell it was revealed he eats fish!!!
Eating fish = TOTAL BADASSERY

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MainManJ Since: Jan, 2001
#2743: Nov 22nd 2012 at 4:10:50 PM

When Linkara made a "Topical Joke of the Week" about Tony Harris, was he talking about the comic book artist? If so, can someone explain the reference to me, cause it went right over my head.

nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
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#2744: Nov 22nd 2012 at 4:15:16 PM

Basically, Tony Harris decided to go all slut-shamey on female cosplayers.

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Filby Some Guy from Western Massachusetts Since: Jan, 2001
Some Guy
#2745: Nov 22nd 2012 at 4:18:34 PM

[up][up]Last week or the week before, artist Tony Harris (Starman, Ex Machina) posted an extremely misogynistic rant on Facebook in which he vitriolically insulted women who cosplay, calling them fake nerds who only want to seduce "real" male nerds.

This editorial has more.

edited 22nd Nov '12 4:18:45 PM by Filby

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MainManJ Since: Jan, 2001
#2746: Nov 22nd 2012 at 9:48:10 PM

Oh, yeah, I heard about that, but I didn't realize it was Tony Harris who said that.

0dd1 Just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2009
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#2747: Nov 23rd 2012 at 12:50:22 PM

Hadn't heard of that...what the hell. (Besides, who would want to seduce a nerd anyway?)

EDIT: Just read the rant. Did he seriously just say "We are LEGION"? Really?

And it's depressing how many people in the comments section of that article are siding with him, including one person saying more or less, "If you don't want to be treated like a who're, don't dress like one!" Um, how about you shut the eff up and let people dress how they want to dress?

edited 23rd Nov '12 12:58:58 PM by 0dd1

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RhymeBeat Bird mom from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#2748: Nov 23rd 2012 at 11:36:09 PM

I bet these are the same fans who resist any complaint of how whoreish CANON superheroine costumes are.

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llawliet L Lawliet from Central City Since: Jun, 2009
L Lawliet
#2750: Nov 26th 2012 at 4:49:06 PM

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While I wouldn't call it whoreish, for a while I sort of silently complained to myself about how much I didn't like Power Girl's outfit. I'm so glad they changed it.

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