Type-Moon: Fate/stay night, Tsukihime, and Kara no Kyoukai discussion

They are going to appear in Grand Order, eventually.

It's from the original datamined Servant list, back when the game was new. Similar to "Zhuge Liang (El Melloi 2)", the names "Parvati (Sakura)" and "Ishtar (Rin)" came up (and on a more silly note, there's also "Jaguarman (Taiga)")

edited 30th Apr '16 12:34:22 PM by ExeloMinish

...Taiga's a Servant now?!

Taiga's always been a Servant, we just haven't seen her summoned because she's trivialize the entire War and solve all the problems, ever, in a single night.

Fate/Zero event sounds like one hell of a time :V

I think kid Cu's in the datamine too?Or atleast Cu before he killed that dog and had to replace it.

So what is a datamine anyway?

There are only 4 versions of Cu in the datamined list and they've all been put into the game. Or are you talking about Proto Cu.

Irisviel's profile translation

Iskander punching Kariya for thinking Sakura will be rescued if he kills Tokiomi felt so satisfying.

Mfw you find out your house is on fire and your pet worms are dead.◊

How many Hassans have I killed by now

edited 30th Apr '16 5:19:05 PM by Nouct

Interesting fact: If Irisviel had been Saber's actual Master in the Fourth war, they would have won.

Once again proving that the Einzberns are morons.

Won't Iri die before the final servant is killed making Saber have no Master and thus disappear herself?

edited 30th Apr '16 7:32:55 PM by 32ndfreeze

But if the Einzberns were actually going to win, then the Counter Force would have deployed to at least wipe Fuyuki off the map and prevent Angra Mainyu from incarnating itself, as this event shows. So....by picking Kerry as their master, the Einzberns fucked up so badly they saved the world.

What do you base that off? The FGO event only goes the way it does because the players get involved.

No, the Singularity happened independently just because the Grail fuck things up; our job is to correct the timeline caused by that. In this event, Iri never married to Kiritsugu, thus Iri is Saber's Master in this Grail War. Kiritsugu as Counter Guardian is summoned by Alaya because if Einzbern uses Iri as Saber's Master, Einzbern will be the winner of the Grail War, Angra Mainyu will fully corrupt both the Greater Grail and the Lesser Grail, and Angra will be fully reincarnated as the reaction of the Einzbern finally achieve the Third Magic.

So yeah, Einzbern saved the world by screwing up so badly.

edited 30th Apr '16 8:23:10 PM by AlaAlba

Ohhh. I knew it was a different timeline already, but I didn't know the event mentioned what would happen if the player wasn't involved.

edit: How did the Einzbern's screw up though? Kerry could have probably won the war if not for the Angra Mainyu shit.

edited 30th Apr '16 8:29:55 PM by Saiga

Because he realized that there was something huge and evil in the Grail and stopped it from fully manifesting. Like, y'know, what he did in F/Z.

Unrelated:

The diverging timelines are a lot more significant than just merely changing some people's positions. It is noted that while Apocrypha timeline is diverged when the Grater Grail is stolen in WWII, in Grand Order timeline Fuyuki Grail War in the Singularity Zero is the first Grail War ever happened in the history, which basically makes the entire 300 years worth of Stay Night timeline nonexistent in Grand Order.

At least that explained why Zouken is not a wrinkly old man in London only several decades prior meeting Darnic in Apocrypha, where he was.

What do you mean by that?

That's how Grand Order calls the chapters; Orlean is Singularity One, Septem is Singularity Two, Okeanos is Three. Fuyuki, which is the prologue, is Singularity Zero.

Ok so I finally saw the Ascension art for the new Zero Event Servants & I gotta say. Female Hassan unmasked: Ewwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!

Seriously the fuck? Those lips man, they gross as fuck. Why would they even unmask her in the first place? As well as the fact that the art only focuses on the female persona. They completely wasted what could have been an awesome legion spread-shot for whatever the fuck it is they went with.

edited 1st May '16 12:48:28 AM by slimcoder

To be fair if you look in the background of her first three cards, you can see the other Hassans and in gameplay all the other Hassans are used in attacks but yeah those lips are terrible, thank god we can change all the portraits, sprites, and card artwork in-game.

Finished the Fate/Accel Zero Order story, here were a few of my reactions:

oh they drew an extra portrait for Adult Waver's forehead flick

SURPRISE ZOUKEN STAB

waver, you're injured and the grail is about to activate, why are you making me farm homunculi. their babies are not the key to fixing any of your problems, why are you making do this it wasn't actually that bad since i only needed to kill thirty homunculi and i needed the lancer coins

whaaa, something that happened in the story also happened in gameplay?! zouken using a command spell to have lancelot use his NP actually happened in-game and he actually used it on my party instead of just being told that he shot bullets at the characters?

playing Point Zero for the final battle against Dark Iri was really cool, her death was really anticlimatic in both game and story tho

and the ending after the wrap-up when Angra Mainyu and Assassin Emiya fight each other was neat i guess with Battle is to the Strong playing and the two discussing their ideals but am i really supposed to be surprised at the DRAMATIC REVEAL of Kerry being the Assassin if Iri and him kept yammering about their special bond that they can feel even without knowing each other for a chapter

Well, that was a fun event and story, probably better then the Kara no Kyoukai event because there's a lot more stuff and class coin grinding and doing missions feels a lot easier now and the story suffers a lot less from going up and down in silliness but I still feel like something's lacking from the Fate/Zero event. I'll have to wait until the last few missions are unlocked in a few days before I can say how good Fate/Accel Zero Order is.

edited 1st May '16 2:54:20 PM by Nouct

You know, we really shouldn't be surprised that Edison's a Servant, and is also a Caster; he was known as "The Wizard of Menlo Park" during his lifetime.

edited 1st May '16 6:42:38 PM by Ssj3Gojira

Awesome. Kariya may have been right about how bad it was to give Sakura to Zouken, but he went about solving the problem in the dumbest way possible.

No. I take that back. The dumbest way possible would have still had the potential to actually solve the problem. This had no chance, even if he was a trained mage. How does kill Tokiomi actually have anything to even do with help Sakura? It doesn't.

Also, the idea the Alaya sent a counter guardian to keep the Einzberns from winning makes me laugh. As a family of fuck ups, they really don't deserve to win. Ever.

Isn't that a misrepresentation of Kariya's plan? He was told if he won the grail, Zouken would release Sakura (as Zouken only needed Sakura for that). Killing Tokiomi was only a step in that plan - but a step Kariya really wanted to do because he holds Tokiomi responsible.

edited 1st May '16 7:01:30 PM by Saiga

Lets also not forget that the worms were slowly driving him insane & irrational. Joining Zouken may not have been the smartest decision but it was the only fucking choice Kariya could choose in the end.

And you see, there's the flaw.

He Listened to Zouken.

He actually went to Zouken.

Zouken.

Zouken FUCKING Matou.

If that man (and I use the term very loosely) said the sky was blue, he'd still be lying. What he should have done is told Aoi what was going on. And then she likely would have told Tokiomi.

Now if Tokiomi decides to do nothing...well, he probably still shouldn't go to Zouken, because fuck that guy (still using the term loosely) but he'll probably do it anyway, but at least in that situation, he'd be doing one of the things he should have done first.

But he was blinded by hatred and stupidity. he wrecked the life of the people he wanted to help (with the exception of Tokiomi who wrecked plenty on his own), and got himself pointlessly killed.

And this is why revenge is stupid.