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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#36351: Aug 22nd 2014 at 11:24:47 PM

[up][up] No, her name is not Alucard. Although I think the kana does kinda invoke it, in a way.

edited 22nd Aug '14 11:25:23 PM by Zelenal

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#36352: Aug 22nd 2014 at 11:41:38 PM

EDIT: OH, AND "OLIVE HOLIDAY" TOO.
Please. Olive is an actual name. While there may be some question about which writer is worse overall, "Waver Velvet" easily tops the capslocked selection.

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#36353: Aug 22nd 2014 at 11:46:06 PM

A contest between Nasu and Kamachi to see who can come up with the most ridiculous name for a character would be a sight to behold.

>A NEW CHALLENGER APPEARS

Oh yeah, and Narita too, because a name like "Jacuzzi Splot" deserves to be mentioned in any conversation involving bizarre fucking names.

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#36354: Aug 22nd 2014 at 11:59:43 PM

Narita's an odd beast, because you've got your Victor Talbots and your Felix Walkens and apparently Czeslaw is an actual Polish name, so he's clearly capable of finding plausible names when he feels like it. And then there's Jacuzzi fucking Splot.

The fun thing is, strange/fake even being as much of a thing as it is proves Narita and Nasu know each other to some degree, so they could actually have a competition.

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#36355: Aug 23rd 2014 at 12:21:02 AM

Narita is also good buddies with Kamachi, as luck would have it.

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Otherarrow Since: Jul, 2010
#36356: Aug 23rd 2014 at 3:27:54 AM

Apparently, Nasu says that the name "Arcueid" resembling "Alucard" was a complete coincidence.

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#36357: Aug 23rd 2014 at 6:13:36 AM

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You take that back. Waver Velvet is a perfectly okay even if not legitimate name.

Aureolus Izzard, Therestina Kihara Lifeline

These are weird but nothing too out there.

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#36359: Aug 23rd 2014 at 11:39:36 AM

[up][up]Find me an actual human being who is named "Waver" and I will retract it.

And I'm not saying the names aren't cool-sounding. The Yggdmillennia clan has the coolest surname ever. The problem is that these are not names any real person has ever had.

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#36360: Aug 23rd 2014 at 1:20:34 PM

[up] Isn't their clan' name a combination made from the first letter of each families surname that joined them?

edited 23rd Aug '14 1:22:45 PM by doineedaname

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#36361: Aug 23rd 2014 at 1:25:42 PM

Probably not. For one, Darnic, the founder of the damn group, has a P in his original clan name.

It's worth noting that the "middle name" of each of the Yggdmillenia members is pretty much their family name before they joined the Yggdmillenia.

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#36363: Aug 24th 2014 at 8:28:15 AM

I learn something new today.

Caren Ortensia and Chikagi Katsuragi & Hibiki Hibino are classmates, before F/SN & F/HA.

Caren Ortensia spending her time in Ahnenerbe cafe. (Drinks coffee, eats cake or finding her " blue dog" and sometimes "angsty teen/shota dog").

Chikagi, Hibiki and Caren are knows each other since Ahnenerbe's first open. They're never interact each other in school life until Ahnenerbe.

The reason why "Blue dog" works at Ahnenerbe because Caren wants money. *cough* Carnival Phantasm *cough*.

"Blue dog" searching new job suits for him and found it Ahnenerbe needs more employee. "Blue dog" finds difficulty to searching where was Ahnenerbe located. (Check the TM wiki). Thanks to Hibiki helps "blue dog" to find where the location is.

The relationship between Caren and "blue dog" are very bad (sometimes hilarious ensues). "Blue dog" always hiding from his master. Ahnenerbe is perfect hideout for him but.....too bad "blue dog" didn't know Ahnenerbe was Caren's favorite location. Must be suffering isn't it?

There was a rumor about Atalanta, Archer, "yellow dog", a man who looks foreign and very long brown hair (rumors it was Chiron, supposedly he is a newcomer of Ahnenerbe's employee) and Robin hood are working part time at Ahnenerbe. The reason why these five employees works at cafe because both have share common: likes and take care of children, and can cook (except "yellow dog").

Hibiki and Chikagi are never call "blue dog" an "inu". So you can see why both get along each other very well. Both knows "blue dog"'s real identity.

Oh, official art by Kotoyari, who is now an official TM's employee since last two months. You can check Kotoyari's pixiv account.

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#36364: Aug 24th 2014 at 8:34:46 AM

...wasn't it loosely implied that the school Caren went to was the same school Ruler's host body (who's name I forgot. Laeticia?) went to, due to the uniform matching something Caren wore in F/HA art?

Said school being in France?

I admit, I don't know anything about Weird Spinoff Girls, but I somehow doubt they are French or went to school in France.

Or I could be nitpicking a gag manga based on shaking evidence.

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#36365: Aug 24th 2014 at 8:39:44 AM

I was under the impression she studied there until she moved from France to Japan.

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#36366: Aug 24th 2014 at 8:41:02 AM

Wasn't she not deployed to Japan until HA, to basically report back on the Grail War that happened in FSN?

If I recall, Caren lives in a monastery somewheres when the Church isn't exploiting her evil detecting illness for stuff.

edited 24th Aug '14 8:42:01 AM by Otherarrow

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#36367: Aug 24th 2014 at 8:51:27 AM

I don't know about Caren's school life history, I read many comments suggesting that Caren always transfer another school or different education school (Like Magic Association?). Unless there is a source(s) stated otherwise.

I had to admit, it's kinda make sense why Caren always spending her time at A.cafe in All Around Type Moon, Chibichuki, Carnival Phantasm and etc. I thought it was sort of joke or something but it's a freaking thing.

I think Laeticia and Caren went to same school was alternate universe setting because Nasu suggests it was totally obvious they wears same uniform but when and how. Kinda like how Kayneth was killed in every universes but no confirmation of when and how and then how Waver become Lord Melloi in every universes.

edited 24th Aug '14 8:54:03 AM by Shinichameleon

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#36368: Aug 24th 2014 at 9:03:51 AM

I forgot Chikagi and Hibiki knows how to use magecraft. There was a manga featuring both are main characters and how they met Blue Cellphone known as who is Zeltrech's best friend.

edited 24th Aug '14 9:04:40 AM by Shinichameleon

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#36369: Aug 24th 2014 at 9:10:15 AM

I don't think we know Caren's past after her mother's death and her being left with her relatives aside from "she joined the Church at some point and now serves as their evil-detector".

I think since her past is so loosely defined, we are going to get a lot of this contradictory or otherwise loosely fitting info as different authors try to draw comparisons or connect her to the other cast members, who she only has the loosest connections with otherwise.

I thought she hang out at the Cafe because that is where everyone hangs out. As a "setting neutral" location, you could probably stick anyone not in a cast herd elsewhere there and they wouldn't stick out.

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#36370: Aug 24th 2014 at 9:31:44 AM

I wish TM adds new story content for Caren in Fate/Hollow Ataraxia PSV. I recall they want adds and expands Kuzuki's background story in F/HA but didn't make it.

Oh well, at least I finally got an answer of why many artists suddenly drawing Five Archers altogether like this one, based of according to rumor story.

edited 24th Aug '14 9:35:28 AM by Shinichameleon

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#36371: Aug 24th 2014 at 9:57:01 AM

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I see Robin Hood, Atalanta, and of course Emiya, but who's the long haired blonde in the skirt?

Edit: Wait? That's not a skirt, that's an apron, and a dude wearing pants.....

....Is that Astolofo?

edited 24th Aug '14 9:57:53 AM by HandsomeRob

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#36372: Aug 24th 2014 at 10:05:19 AM

Unless you were joking, I'm pretty sure that's still Heroic Spirit EMIYA.

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#36374: Aug 24th 2014 at 10:56:33 AM

[up]

Oh.

I forgot he was an Archer.

And I mistook him for a woman, when he's not even trying.

I'm somewhat ashamed.

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#36375: Aug 24th 2014 at 11:38:34 AM

The way Caren tells it, she didn't really go to school in the first place.


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